1. Windows_Addict

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    #7741 Windows_Addict, Apr 19, 2020
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    Sure, :)
    I've Intel Pentium E5300 with 2GB DDR2 ram,
    core2duo is good compared to it, but with 2 GB ram, I guess the results should almost match.
    btw just to be sure, I'm talking about testing windows in Virtualbox, not directly in those machines. (all tests with 32 bit windows)
     
  2. Enthousiast

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    #7742 Enthousiast, Apr 19, 2020
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    I also found a intel 2100 with 2GB ram, ran 10 fine too when i got it, will set it up tomorrow, i was going to use it as htpc but got a nice dell latitude i7 laptop for that, from a friend :D

    Testing in vb? vb running on the old hardware? I thougt this was about actually running windows on ancient hardware.
     
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  3. Windows_Addict

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    Yes, testing in VB inside those old hardwares as mentioned in my initial post here.

    Install windows 10 1507 and 1809 and you will find the smoothness difference is pretty huge.

    This is to clearly show that newer builds are heavy and take more resources and if anyone looking to make the best out of older hardware should prioritize older builds.
     
  4. ashish1989

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    #7745 ashish1989, Apr 19, 2020
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    Kindly check this, these problems are faced by me today
    upload_2020-4-19_12-27-32.png
    Just copying a 9kb file from downloads folder to C drive this comes
    upload_2020-4-19_12-35-20.png
     
  5. luzea

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    Why don’t you click on „Continue“?
     
  6. ashish1989

    ashish1989 MDL Member

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    Ya I clicked on continue and is working well
    But my question is why this popup of administrator permission is coming when I am the administrator myself
     
  7. Windows_Addict

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    #7749 Windows_Addict, Apr 19, 2020
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    C drive root is protected by default and requires admin rights in copy-to, move, rename etc.
     
  8. qwesta

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    Can't get what these members are always asking
    is he sure, he can use a computer?
     
  9. bfoos

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    Really dude, I've been watching your posts about this crap and have kept quiet as the solution isn't ideal and is generally frowned upon in this day and age. The root of C:\ is protected and separated from userspace. But ONLY IF UAC IS ENABLED. I haven't offered any advise because I don't believe that you are capable of running a Windows system with no admin approval mode. But now I'm sitting here drinking my morning coffee after having my morning chat with my lady and I'm feeling that you will not go away until you get what you are looking for. So the solution is to disable UAC. And that doesn't mean just moving the slider all the way down. You'll need to actually disable it. I say again though that this is not an ideal solution and I have never recommended that anyone do this before, even though I don't use UAC either and never have. Congrats, bro! You broke me! Have it YOUR way!
     
  10. qwesta

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    One couldn't put this in a better way.
    His posts are all but crXXX, it pains my eyes to read and see, sorry, but it is a fact
     
  11. BAU

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  12. SM03

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    Anyone confirm whether MS didn't release the WMSRT (KB890830) on April 2020's Patch Tuesday so far, after March'2020, right?
     
  13. Windows_Addict

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    As I've mentioned, the performance difference can't be noticed on a newer/good enough system, you run windows 7/8.1/10 and all will 'feel' the same, but on an older machine, the difference is noticeable, if you have enough experience running various versions of Windows on them.
    To see such difference very clearly, I mentioned using the virtual box on them so that processing power allotted to os gets even less, hence helping to see the difference clearer. (btw E5300 which I have, have virtualization feature). Now when I use 1507-1607, I can browse the os fine and do some small tests, however, when I use 1809/1909 it lags too much that whole experience is painful, not to mention that windows 7/8.1 runs smoother than 10. Based on this I concluded that newer builds are taking more resources (don't know what else I can conclude in this) and on a machine which already struggling with resources (I mean really struggling like 2008 and older Pentium or something with 2 GB ram, not like I've 9 years older i3 and 3 GB ram and think it's weak (it's good enough for 10)), and you want to make the best of it, it's better to run Windows 7/8.1 or 1507/1607 LTSB.
     
  14. venejo

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    Yes, they didn't this month.
     
  15. SM03

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    Yes, I realized that still asked here for confirmation, thanks.
     
  16. BAU

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    Nobody is saying that there is no difference. But when all factors considered, and a fair bare-bones-up-to-date-indexed-settled vs bare-bones-up-to-date-indexed-settled on supported hardware, you can get the best available security, better usability, better multitasking, less power consumption and less stutters with a newer windows build.
    e5300, a piss-over offer even at it's time of release, most certain does not have vt-d for i/o acceleration, and it also does not have cpu vulnerabilities mitigation support in hardware so the storage interface is f**ked two-times over in your test - and couple that with lamest 775 chipset, hdd, ddr2 ram - ofc you get stutters even during oobe setup.
    On the bright side, you could sacrifice security since nobody will want to bot such a weak PC :)
     
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  17. Windows_Addict

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    Ofc, since older builds use less resources, it doesn't mean that those older builds will perform better on newer systems because of it, however, they perform better on a weak and older system. Before deciding which OS to use on a system, personally I check CPU benchmark report at cpubenchmark.net and if the score is below 1000 and ram is 2 GB or less, I go with the older windows versions, otherwise I use latest windows 10 version.
     
  18. qusay

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    #7760 qusay, Apr 20, 2020
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    thank you