[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Build 10162

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  1. Taliseian

    Taliseian MDL Junior Member

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    My understanding then, is at least in general there is no reason to use UEFI if your board supports Legacy mode? I don't use sleep or hibernate on my PC, and a couple of my friends who already have UEFI boards don't either.


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  2. TeamOS

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    Question:why there Definition Update for Windows Defender nothing important?
     
  3. murphy78

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    Hmm.. It's supposed to be more compatible. I honestly don't know. I have yet to personally witness a situation where UEFI was superior for just booting.
     
  4. endbase

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    I have changed an half year ago from legacy to UEFI and I must say that one thing is getting clear to me and that is that I have less boot errors ! In the past with legacy it was raining errors on my side like I can't find this or that, can't boot from device and so on and on :D
     
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    #1565 urie, Jul 7, 2015
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    I suppose the forums members where WinToolkit_1.5.4.1 is developed were sleeping also go there for support if using their toolkit.
    Deleted your deliberate posts from this thread along with members replies.
     
  6. DarkStarXxX

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    Old KMS Proto stops since Build 10163:D
     
  7. xinso

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    Thank you.
     
  8. Espionage724

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    If a machine supports UEFI, it does so normally. Legacy mode on UEFI motherboard is within a compatibility layer on-top of UEFI (CSM + using Legacy ROMs), at least in most cases. Using UEFI is thus more "native" than Legacy, but for the most part, this doesn't really mean too much.

    At the very least, I use UEFI with SecureBoot because:

    - It works/nothing is broken
    - I like the concept of running things as natively and minimally as possible (UEFI on my motherboard eliminates needing to load certain option ROMS at boot time and from my understanding, lets the OS handle that completely)
    - Boot screen is at native resolution
    - Carry-over from when Windows 8.1 had that issue where it would always display "SecureBoot isn't configured properly" with Legacy and non-SecureBoot installs
    - It seems to be the "proper" way to use Windows 8+ :p

    But with that in-mind, mostly none of the main selling points of UEFI affect me:

    - I don't really care about the slight improvement to boot time (I think it's only a second or two since I don't have to initialize SATA and USB stuff and go straight to the Windows bootloader)
    - SecureBoot doesn't do anything secure on my motherboard considering I can just reset CMOS to win (get past any firmware password and just toggle SecureBoot off)
    - My HDD is 2TB, and works fine with MBR

    So basically, UEFI works, and that's why I use it :p If it didn't work, I wouldn't really miss anything.

    That sounds like either a really horrible BIOS or Legacy mode implementation, or bad hardware that just happens to gets triggered more often with Legacy. Have you tried testing your HDD out?
     
  9. endbase

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    Yeah, had it on different hdd's with different mobo's and even with ssd disks maybe I was doing something wrong but must say I always have used raid 0 so perhaps that was the problem in the past :tea:
     
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  10. mysteriously

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    I bought Asus 1215b netbook in 2011. It used to be sold with Windows but I've chosen to buy it without the OS. It has the worst UEFI implementation possible. None of the OS, none Windows or even none Linux can be installed in UEFI mode. Win shows blue screen at 1% of installation. Never read about someone who can install any OS in UEFI mode on this netbook. If it does not work then why the hell and for what they made it? :confused:
     
  11. cheezels

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    It probably works with pre-installed factory images, but yeah, early UEFI implementations were sometimes buggy. Try a BIOS update.
     
  12. Espionage724

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    #1572 Espionage724, Jul 7, 2015
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    Seems the latest update to Movies & TV broke audio for me with certain video formats, can anyone else confirm?

    This is the mediainfo from a file with missing audio:

    Code:
    General
    Unique ID                      : 288363559527145067298974657175718168525 (0xD8F0CD299F1350F40FD0711D37BF87CD)
    Complete name                  : C:\Users\espio\Desktop\MPC-HC.1.7.9.x64\Pulsen_2015_07_07_04_52_47_658.mkv
    Format                         : Matroska
    Format version                 : Version 4 / Version 2
    File size                      : 1.42 GiB
    Duration                       : 1mn 55s
    Overall bit rate               : 106 Mbps
    Movie name                     : Pulsen_2015_07_07_04_52_47_658.mkv
    Encoded date                   : UTC 2015-07-07 04:52:47
    Writing application            : MSIAfterburner.exe v4.1.1.7625
    Writing library                : RivaTuner media encoding library v1.38.0.0
    
    Video
    ID                             : 1
    Format                         : JPEG
    Codec ID                       : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / MJPG
    Width                          : 1 280 pixels
    Height                         : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                : Variable
    Color space                    : YUV
    Compression mode               : Lossy
    Language                       : English
    Default                        : Yes
    Forced                         : No
    
    Audio
    ID                             : 2
    Format                         : PCM
    Codec ID                       : A_PCM/INT/LIT
    Duration                       : 1mn 55s
    Bit rate mode                  : Constant
    Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
    Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth                      : 16 bits
    Language                       : English
    Default                        : Yes
    Forced                         : No
    And here's mediainfo from video with working audio:

    Code:
    General
    Unique ID                      : 8733792130546886973644400392984985635 (0x6921132A868962C7CB814F92BD20023)
    Complete name                  : Z:\Media\Movies\Puella Magi Madoka Magica the Movie Part I Beginnings (2012)\Puella Magi Madoka Magica the Movie Part I Beginnings (2012).mkv
    Format                         : Matroska
    Format version                 : Version 2
    File size                      : 2.37 GiB
    Duration                       : 2h 11mn
    Overall bit rate               : 2 583 Kbps
    Movie name                     : Magical Girl Madoka Magica the Movie I - Beginnings
    Writing application            : HandBrake 6548svn 2014112401
    Writing library                : Lavf55.12.0
    FILENAME                       : Vesta-Bold_0.otf
    Attachements                   : Alegreya-Regular.otf / Ammys Handwriting.ttf / AndBasR.ttf / AR CENA_0.TTF / ARCENA.ttf / BRLNSR.TTF / DFLIS6.TTC / DFPCRD3.ttf / Fertigo_PRO_0.otf / HIGHMIM.TTF / RuzickaTypeK_0.ttf / Vesta-Bold_0.otf
    
    Video
    ID                             : 1
    Format                         : AVC
    Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                 : [email protected]
    Format settings, CABAC         : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames      : 4 frames
    Codec ID                       : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration                       : 2h 11mn
    Width                          : 1 920 pixels
    Height                         : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                : Constant
    Frame rate                     : 23.976 fps
    Color space                    : YUV
    Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                      : 8 bits
    Scan type                      : Progressive
    Writing library                : x264 core 142 r2479 dd79a61
    Encoding settings              : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=62500 / vbv_bufsize=78125 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Default                        : Yes
    Forced                         : No
    Color range                    : Limited
    Color primaries                : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics       : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients            : BT.709
    
    Audio
    ID                             : 2
    Format                         : AAC
    Format/Info                    : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile                 : LC
    Codec ID                       : A_AAC
    Duration                       : 2h 11mn
    Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
    Channel positions              : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode               : Lossy
    Title                          : Stereo
    Language                       : Japanese
    Default                        : Yes
    Forced                         : No
    
    Text
    ID                             : 3
    Format                         : ASS
    Codec ID                       : S_TEXT/ASS
    Codec ID/Info                  : Advanced Sub Station Alpha
    Compression mode               : Lossless
    Language                       : English
    Default                        : Yes
    Forced                         : No
    
    Menu
    00:00:00.000                   : :Chapter 1
    00:03:04.518                   : :Chapter 2
    00:04:43.617                   : :Chapter 3
    00:06:03.738                   : :Chapter 4
    00:10:37.470                   : :Chapter 5
    00:12:28.665                   : :Chapter 6
    00:19:05.311                   : :Chapter 7
    00:22:30.182                   : :Chapter 8
    00:23:54.892                   : :Chapter 9
    00:26:18.952                   : :Chapter 10
    00:29:34.398                   : :Chapter 11
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    00:36:44.577                   : :Chapter 13
    00:39:37.542                   : :Chapter 14
    00:44:26.539                   : :Chapter 15
    00:45:32.313                   : :Chapter 16
    00:48:58.352                   : :Chapter 17
    00:52:12.796                   : :Chapter 18
    00:56:30.178                   : :Chapter 19
    00:58:39.683                   : :Chapter 20
    01:04:07.635                   : :Chapter 21
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    01:31:58.888                   : :Chapter 26
    01:34:21.739                   : :Chapter 27
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    01:51:43.488                   : :Chapter 30
    01:56:16.052                   : :Chapter 31
    02:03:33.740                   : :Chapter 32
    02:05:48.791                   : :Chapter 33
    I'm certain Movies & TV was playing audio with the videos I recorded with MSI Afterburner just earlier today. I can confirm the audio works if I use MPC-HC.
     
  13. xinso

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  17. getsuga369

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    Guys my bios have an option to switch b/w legacy and UEFI but it doesn't support secure boot..So can i install windows 10 in uefi mode and use it even if my bios doesn't support secure boot (Bios update not possibe since samsung doesn't provide as the model SF511 is very old)..
     
  18. Don

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    I would like that too, I think that is what was pushed out with build 135 and it worked great on my Lenovo but it's not downloadable anywhere I can find..seems only MS was given it.