[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Build 10240

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by murphy78, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. phrunt

    phrunt MDL Addicted

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    well we know for a fact they are only extending the free offer to Windows 7 and 8 machines that are legit, Windows 7 is a lot easier to make a pirate copy legit with slics. We also know they are not extending the offer to KMS/MAK copies, we know while in beta stages kms versions activated fine, we also know after the 29th they are only allowing non-legit copies to stay activated if they're insiders.

    It's all very clear...

    The one thing I'm not sure of is can you install a clean Windows 10 and then KMS activate it? If so.. This is probably better to do than try do the upgrade install and rely on the free activation method.
     
  2. Lacius

    Lacius MDL Member

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    What's stopping someone who, for example, upgrades from Windows 8.1 (KMS-activated) to Windows 10 and using slmgr.vbs -ipk to insert one of the generic retail keys while retaining the permanent activation?
     
  3. phrunt

    phrunt MDL Addicted

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    someone should try that, and see if it even accepts the key.
     
  4. Lacius

    Lacius MDL Member

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    I did, and it does. It also retains the permanent activation.
     
  5. s1ave77

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  6. phrunt

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    after you do that does it now say you're retail and not mak
     
  7. phrunt

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    i guess the next test after that would be to do a clean install from the iso and see if it auto activates and says you're retail channel
     
  8. LEXX911

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    That's not the point. The point his that they got freaking lazy. I mean just damn lazy. They have don't nothing to improve alot of stuff that are still from the XP era with very basic functions. Here's an idea for them. Why not just buy/paid VLC, Note++, Musicbee ect and let that be part of the Windows 10 system?
     
  9. Mandy

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    Only when they are still too drunk but when the alcohol drains off their system to a low threshold limit the first thing they would see is their machine is still activated
     
  10. Lacius

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    Windows 8.1 Pro KMS-activated with MTK.
    Windows 8.1 Pro upgraded to Windows 10 Pro.
    Windows 10 Pro receives generic ***** Volume/MAK key and is allegedly permanently activated.
    Generic 3V66T retail key inserted in command prompt.
    Key is accepted and permanent activation is retained.
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    Name: Windows(R), Professional edition
    Description: Windows(R) Operating System, RETAIL channel
    Family: Professional
    SKU ID: 4de7cb65-cdf1-4de9-8ae8-e3cce27b9f2c
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Last 5 characters of installed product key: 3V66T
    License Status: Activated
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  11. s1ave77

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    If it takes the key, the License Channel will switch to Retail.
     
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  12. s1ave77

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    Thanks for confirmation :good3:.
     
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  13. Lacius

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    I am going to do a clean install later, but I just tried the exact same thing with another computer that is disconnected from the internet. Upon entering the generic retail key, the computer was deactivated, and it only activated after being reconnected to the internet. This leads me to think that a clean install would also be activated with the retail key.
     
  14. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    well, yah. It has to verify the activation on the ms server.

    I'm curious to see if you could back up that app tokens that superfly mentioned and restore the WPA keys from the registry and have it activate while offline
     
  15. Lacius

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    Right, of course. My point was that it's successfully activating against the MS server and the saved HWID with the retail key, which is why I assume it would work with a clean install as well.
     
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    #5257 s1ave77, Jul 24, 2015
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    So far those tests failed to my knowledge.

    Code:
    %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\tokens.dat
     
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  17. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    new update for 10240, kb3074679 (security update)
     
  18. murphy78

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    #5259 murphy78, Jul 24, 2015
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    maybe both those and the normal tokens/data from spp\store\2.0
     
  19. xinso

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    #5260 xinso, Jul 24, 2015
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    Not a problem.