[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Build 10240

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by murphy78, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. GeForce66

    GeForce66 MDL Novice

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    I would really like to upgrade my 8.1 KMS'd Machine to 10 right after GA when things are clear.
    Would be a shame if they wait e.g. a month to deal with us afterwards ...
     
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  2. daveo76

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  3. craftbrewer

    craftbrewer MDL Senior Member

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    You can bet the house on it!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. phrunt

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    you missed me saying "this old article" ... but its true, the reasons behind microsoft making it so easy to get a copy of windows 10.
     
  5. craftbrewer

    craftbrewer MDL Senior Member

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    It doesn't matter

    The guts of the article is right

    : That helps Microsoft because it’s moving towards selling apps through its own store — allowing it to take a cut, just as Apple does. The more developers want to sell apps for Windows phones and computers, and the more people that use them, the more money that comes back to Microsoft.

    It will also see more people sign up for Microsoft accounts, getting them using Microsoft’s recent services like online storage service OneDrive. If Microsoft can get people into using its products, they will buy more — a strategy used effectively by Apple — and so the move could drive purchases of new devices after all.


    M$ is looking at this as a service. They don't care how you activate Windows 10. Once they have you hooked, they will flog all sorts od services to you.

    get you roped in first, they the sales pitch starts
     
  6. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    I don't ! My concern is to let you know that Microsoft plans evolve and you cannot bank on that information as a whole.
     
  7. phrunt

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    It's the same model Apple and Google uses, OSX, Android and Chrome OS are free and they make their money off their stores and services. Microsoft was just late in the game, which is the norm with them lately.
     
  8. Hadron-Curious

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    #5370 Hadron-Curious, Jul 24, 2015
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    Oh, yeah! You have simply forgotten the huge numbers of Windows users are programmed for the so called freebies. You are arguably thinking that because it is now more in tune with apps means more revenue. There is clear reason to speculate it might just be the opposite after seeing how the mobile phone platform has yielded little or less profit. There is more to making it profitable than providing revenue for app developers. The users-based of Windows tend to like free apps because they tend to spend less when compared to the usual Apple users that cut across the middle income earner and the rich. That factors in one of the reasons the mobile phone section has not be receiving incentives.

    People have been using Microsoft account till now. The reason why it provided that means is for security purposes not for income generation. If you look closely at Apple it applies to purchasing of Apple product and mainly restricted to Itunes. Not the way Microsoft requires you to use it to log into your system and otherwise.

    If really they don't care about how people activate Windows 10 as you said. Why is Windows XP left out of the plan? The initial idea is to bring the Windows XP users along only at the last minute they are removed from the upgrade process. Microsoft cannot be trusted with their plans sometimes. And, using that article dated January can be complicating issue as the plan is gradually meant to provide service people might not want to use.
     
  9. phrunt

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    I posted this on another thread, but it gives my opinion on your query

    "The reason they aren't giving the free upgrade to XP and Vista is because they know there will be so many machines of that era that won't run well on Windows 10, they'll either go too slow, have very limited driver support or just be unstable as they're already stuffed with leaking capacitors and so on. The problems combined with the older computers could have a huge potential to give Windows 10 a bad reputation. Computers of that age really need replaced. It makes sense to only give it to Win7 + computers. Also computers from late in Windows 7's time to now is the time a majority of computers sold were laptops or OEM's like HP and Lenovo, the market for the generic home built and small computer retailer computers died off pretty quickly so most people will have a genuine oem install already.

    It's basically taken OSX's stance, Windows is now free..... they hope to make money from their services and the cut they get from the store... The same model Apple and Google have."
     
  10. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    Thank you. What do you say about the Windows store for mobile phone that has been in existence for some time now with little to no profit for Microsoft?
     
  11. s1ave77

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    Therefor the new Windows General Concept with new Store also shipping real Programs together with those crappy 'Apps' :cool2:. ... you get the direction :g:?
     
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  12. Hadron-Curious

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    That makes a lot of sense. Why in the whole wide world they know that initially and make such bogus promise? It simply means Microsoft is not consistent with its plans.
     
  13. s1ave77

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    Who cares where it comes from (we talk google here) ... pecunia non olet.
     
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  14. phrunt

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    But why would Google be so interested in giving away a mobile operating system?

    Google makes money (and justifies giving away the OS) by licensing the Google Apps that come on most Android phones (but not all). Apps like Gmail, the Android Market, Google Search, and others come in something called GAPPS. The Market is really where Google is interested. Sure, the other GAPPS add value to the phone (hence why carriers license their inclusion on Android-powered phones), but Google is making money with every app sold through the Market.

    Even free apps make Google money. Developers have to pay to have an account to list their apps under. Even ad-sponsored apps are likely using Google Mobile Ads, so Google’s getting revenue from that source as well.

    That’s not the elegance of Google’s mobile revenue stream. Google isn’t so much after making money from apps sold through their Market, or even by charging developers an admission fee to get their apps listed.

    Instead, Google saw that computers were getting smaller and smaller, more and more mobile, and connected to the internet in more ways.

    Now, instead of trying to remember something to look up on your desktop computer later, pull out the laptop… or better yet: your phone.

    Starting to see Google’s foresight now?

    But Google didn’t stop at just having their search engine in your pocket. They made search easier. You can search through Google’s database by using your keyboard, using your voice, and even by using the camera on your phone. You can “scan” a barcode and see who has the best price (getting ads along the way) before you make your purchase.

    Google even knows where you are, so your search results are even more relevant to you. Google can tell you that you can buy that item for $5 less at a store 1.5 miles away. They’ll even give you turn-by turn directions to get there.

    Google knows that searching using input other than text is the next big thing. Spoken search is important, but people speak very differently all over the world, even across the country. To address this, Google bought a company called Grand Central (now Google Voice) to get voice samples from people — and give you “free voicemail transcription” along the way. You can even call Google (+1-800-GOOG-411) to get free 411 information from your phone — any phone. They’ll even connect you for free.

    Google knows that searching by taking a picture is going to be big, too. So Google Goggles was created. Tie this in with the new face-recognition feature of Google Picasa and you may soon be able to search for someone just by snapping a picture of them.

    In Conclusion

    How does Google make money? By learning who you are, what you’re interested it, and how you search for stuff… then helping you find it in an intuitive manner anywhere you are.

    Android just helps them be able to do that even more efficiently.