[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Build 10586 (v1511/th2)

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by pawX, Nov 5, 2015.

  1. wasd

    wasd MDL Junior Member

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    Users using this build not being insiders are going to get updates?
     
  2. alexxf

    alexxf MDL Expert

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    I have the same problem.
     
  3. nicktorn

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    Working fine for me on 3 builds, 2 updated from 10240 and one from 10565. Although the live tiles are still finicky sometimes on certain networks. Wish MS would fix this, all of my 3rd party live tiles work all the time without issue, it's just the official MS ones (Weather|Sports|Money|News) Money and Sports always halfway work, meaning they show text updates like the tile is set to medium, but they are all set to large.

    SFC /Scannow reported errors for me on my laptop 10586 updated from RTM. I never put much weight into that scan though, I've had catastrophic issues in Windows and it found no integrity violations, and can have a smooth running build with errors that can't be fixed.
     
  4. zicke2

    zicke2 MDL Novice

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    Yes... here on german win10 also version changed from 10586.0 to 10586.3
     
  5. Gharlane00

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    I think that fact that there were updates specifically aimed at 1511 and the build number ticking up to 10586.3 indicates that it is the production build that will eventually get pushed to the rest of the world.
     
  6. armond

    armond MDL Addicted

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    Sorry if this posted but I also see this. After updating, WinVer shows:
    Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.3)
    Copyright 2016? Well...
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    That has been stated a few times now :)
     
  8. Simple07

    Simple07 MDL Addicted

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    I found Disk Errors again, being repaired.
    Weather updates is working fine here...
    Try "Windows + R" Run "%Temp%" and delete all files and reboot, it might help..
     
  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I think your disk is going down, no errors here, that was a long wile ago those disk errors.
     
  10. cengizhan

    cengizhan MDL Senior Member

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    disk errors are not update related. you have some hardware errors. maybe hdd, ram or mainboard.
     
  11. Simple07

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    I have run SFC /SCANNOW and it gave a message that it found some errors that it could not repair.. its probably since last time when it repaired some and some it couldn't.. The weird thing is that I ran the Windows 10 repair tool and it said "repair successful"..!!!!

    It is going through optimisation now.. I will check it again.. I have an identical one with software image and it is giving errors as well. It could be disk, cables, memory, virus or other things. But in any case I will wait for the release product (hopefully Thursday or Friday), format and install before I make a final judgement on the disk status..
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #912 Enthousiast, Nov 10, 2015
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    Those aren't disk errors (sfc) but system file errors. 10240 had (repairable) syswow64 errors, a mui.lang.dll and another one, but 10565 didn't had that error anymore (only x64 windows 10 had it, x86 didn't).

    To get a relliable disk status is to use the manufacturers' (bootable) testtool and do a long test, if it's only bad sectors it can maybe repair them (not when the disk reached his limit).

    EDIT: after using sfc /scannow paste this in the cmd: "findstr /c:"[SR]" %windir%\logs\cbs\cbs.log >%userprofile%\Desktop\sfcdetails.txt" and you'll see what is going on :)
     
  13. Simple07

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    Thanks Enthousiast,
    I actually ran the Seagate tools and all is well with the hardware (Controller, NAND + Platters) and looked at the log file. The problem with these disks they have a high failure rate. I had one replaced few months back (under warranty) and now I am a little edgy.

    I was very lucky that I ordered one of those (6 Euro from aliexpress) USB 3.0 <=> Hard disk cable where it made it easy for me to replicate the hard disk, instead of creating a back-up. This way, just replace the HD and keep going in case of failure.

    Hopefully, it will be few days and all will be sorted..

    I want to touch on the Hard disk technology while I am at it..
    Recently (Intel and partners, Toshiba and partners, and Samsung have all been sampling their latest multi layered 3D XPoint/NAND/V-NAND. They all run just over 4 times the current IOPS, but they are about 4 times the price.

    This new technology (some of which is magnetic based) can keep data much longer than the current NAND, and I know that there was an issue with Seagate NAND which was addressed by firmware update. Hopefully the new SSDs will become cheaper soon to afford a new one.
     
  14. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    If you mean ssd you shouldn't use the term: harddisk :) For ssd's it's not so easy to test the fitness as with hdd's.
     
  15. Simple07

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    They are hybrid.. and the have their own tools to test. But they have high rate of controller failure.., Toshiba has one which had a miserable failure rate, but it was attributed to the bearing. This was fixed and they are ok now.. Western Digital just produced one few months back, but the reliability is not yet established.

    I like these disks because they have decent access time and can hold large volume of data, but I also have an SSD which beats it hands down.
     
  16. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I only have sold seagate sshd's, they still work properly at the clients.
     
  17. Simple07

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    Do they come with firmware SM16 or SM29? and do you have MTBF numbers from Seagate for this device?
     
  18. Gharlane00

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    Interesting results from today's patches. After installing the patches both my x32 and x64 test machines were no longer showing that they were in the insider program. The 64 bit machine rejoined without issue but not the 32 bit. It kept saying that there was a problem with my security settings and it would fix them and reboot. After each reboot the "problems" were still there. No error code provided. Since I had nothing better to do, I did a reformat and full install of RTM 10 pro. Half my drivers were missing so I let WU run then rebooted. After that I tried to use KMS_VL_ALL and Defender would not even let me copy the files to my machine. Defender killed the process if I tried to run it off of a thumb drive. Even if I disabled Defender I got activation failed when I copied the files and ran it. Defender on the 64 bit machine does not react at all to KMS_VL_ALL. Very disturbing. I will wait til 10586 is available on media creation tool and try a full install again and see what happens.
     
  19. se7an

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    Guys, I need x64 and x86 en-us iso's ,any one have it?