1. Caleb28

    Caleb28 MDL Novice

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    I'm not sure I understand. You said non-LTSC is useless but in the same post you said LTSC is not good for gaming. So if I shouldn't get non-LTSC but I also shouldn't get LTSC then what do I get?

    Isn't Enterprise the same as LTSC?

    I'm so confused.
     
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    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    There is:

    Enterprise
    IoT Enterprise = useless, just use normal Enterprise
    Enterprise 2021 LTSC
    IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC

    And i said just use normal Enterprise or Education (the latter has the same functionality as enterprise but a few pre-installed UWP apps).

    Normal non LTSC Enterprise can be found on the Business ISOs here:
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/windows-10-svf-repository.63324/page-249#post-1742206
     
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  4. Caleb28

    Caleb28 MDL Novice

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    I don't see a normal Enterprise on that link, I only see Enterprise LTSC. You said "normal Enterprise is not the same as Enterprise LTSC".

    Also, you just said the latter (Education) has a few pre-installed UWP apps compared to Enterprise but in a previous post you said "education (has a bit less pre-installed UWP apps)". So which one is it? Does Education have more or less pre-installed UWP apps?

    Maybe I keep misunderstanding your posts. I feel like I keep reading messages that seem like they conflict with earlier messages so I'm even more confused now. I apologize for being annoying, I'm just trying to understand as I want the most lightweight, least-bloat version of Win 10 possible.
     
  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    There is literally no LTSC listed in all the folders by that link.
    Education has less UWP apps pre-installed compared to Enteprise, what's not clear there?
    Maybe read better and don't loose track because a comma is different.
     
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  6. Caleb28

    Caleb28 MDL Novice

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    What wasn't clear is "the latter (Education) has a few pre-installed UWP apps compared to Enterprise" so that sounds like Education has a few pre-installed apps compared to Enterprise, which means it has more pre-installed stuff. Then a later post you said "education (has a bit less pre-installed UWP apps)". To answer your question, that's what's not clear. First it sounded like Education has more pre-installed apps, then it sounded like Education has less.

    I can read just fine. One post you made it sound like Education has more pre-installed, then another post you said less. Also, one post use said non-LTSC is useless then another post you recommended non-LTSC (ie. normal) even though you just said it was useless the message before, lol. Conflicting information like that has nothing to do with how good or bad I can read.

    I see you edited your posts as it now says "IoT Enterprise = useless," . But originally it said non-LTSC = useless. Maybe it's not me who has a problem with reading or writing.

    I truly appreciate the help and quick responses but it's not cool to tell someone else to read better when it's you who, 2 times, wrote conflicting messages.
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Try to repeat yourself 10000s of times.

    On all my replies i have said:
    I forgot to put in less i think?
     
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  10. Caleb28

    Caleb28 MDL Novice

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    Is this the correct folder?
    jhgjhgj.jpg
     
  11. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    That is the only folder of all shown folders not containing any client SKUs, it's the server 2022 LTSC (20348) folder.
     
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  12. Caleb28

    Caleb28 MDL Novice

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    I'm looking for the server 2022 non-LTSC, yes?
    A few more questions:
    - "Server" is identical to "Enterprise", yes?
    - Why is non-LTSC better than LTSC? Are they both equally lightweight / bloat-free?
     
  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Not existing.
    nope.
    LTSC has no store and no UWP apps, if that is what you consider to be "bloat".
     
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  14. Caleb28

    Caleb28 MDL Novice

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    OK, you recommended me to download the non-LTSC version of Enterprise but the download link you pointed me to is of the LTSC version of Server.

    OK. Maybe let's start all over, OK? I'm looking for the most lightweight version of Windows 10 64-bit possible with the least CPU usage, least RAM usage, least spying, etc. so as to have the best possible performance for a gaming PC, May you please be so kind to advise me on what version of Windows that would be and a link to the ISO please?
     
  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I stand by this:
     
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  16. Caleb28

    Caleb28 MDL Novice

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    Clearly your intention is not to help me but rather to troll me and to send me around in circles

    First you tell me non-LTSC is useless (before you edited your post), then you say the opposite and recommend I download LTSC (what the??).

    Then you make it sound like Win Education has more UWP apps, then you say it has less - (you originally forgot to type the word "less", OK, honest mistake on your part, no problem).

    Then you advise me to go for Win Enterprise non-LTSC yet the link you provide me is for Win a) Server, not Enterprise, b) LTSC, not non-LTSC.... Are you kidding me? Do you enjoy trolling other users, sending them in circles, purposely writing extremely short & uninformative responses in order to leave other users confused and un-informed and going in circles?

    Why even respond at all if your intentions are malicious?
     
  17. shhnedo

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    How about this: even when you de-bloat a windows 10 iso, it's still no less demanding. I have a 20GB test SSD at work with such windows 10 installed on it(no store/cortana/defender/apps/a lot of other sh*t, removed via MSMG Toolkit). I use it to prove to myself(and my co-worker) over and over again why mobile Celeron/Pentium/AMD equivalent CPUs are a BAD purchase. A chopped up windows 10 eats them for breakfast(keep in mind we're using an SSD here, we're expecting a smooth experience).

    So, considering your level of comprehension, use Education edition and call it a day. If you want no apps/cortana - Enterprise LTSC. In the case of Ent LTSC, if you want to run games that require Xbox components, you'll have to manually install them so said games can actually run. That's it. More on the subject when you do some more reading.
     
  18. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Where was server SKU ever mentioned?
    I said it has less UWP apps compared to Enterprise.
    I provided you with a link to a repo by @GezoeSloog with all June 2022 ISOs, and you picked the only folder which contained server 2022 LTSC ISOs when all discussion was about ENTERRPISE or EDUCATION and considering we are discussing this in the 19044.1288 Enterprise 2021 LTSC specific thread i would have guessed your were talking about 19044 builds.
    41191 posts with 73679 likes are not evidence of being malicious, or is it?
     
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  19. OldMX

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    Dude, get Enterprise and call it a day, LTSC is not better for games and lacks the store, which you may need eventually even for crappy games like Minecraft or applications like Netflix.

    And BTW, Enthousiast is busting his balls daily helping all of us, give him a break and show some respect.