[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Enterprise/IoT Enterprise (N) LTSC 2021

Carlos Detweiller · Oct 18, 2022

F*ckup from MS, not applicable.

rdubyah · Oct 18, 2022

Lol Silly M$.. haven't they done this before with ltsc 2019? An attempt to update it to 1903 I believe?

Enthousiast · Oct 18, 2022

rdubyah said: ↑

Lol Silly M$.. haven't they done this before with ltsc 2019? An attempt to update it to 1903 I believe?
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Yep, but then it was a full upgrade and not an EP But it didn't upgrade anyway.

Carlos Detweiller · Oct 18, 2022

It may install the EP, but the EP certainly explicitly excludes the LTSC license from applicability. That gets it stuck in a loop.

acer-5100 · Oct 19, 2022

The other way around, is not IoT/LTSC explicitly excluded, it's everything else explicitly included

Code:

 <package identifier="KB5015684" applicabilityEvaluation="deep" releaseType="Update" restart="required">
    <mum2:customInformation Version="10.0.19041.1799" xmlns:mum2="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v3" PackageFormat="PSFX" />
    <parent buildCompare="EQ" integrate="separate" disposition="detect">
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-CoreCountrySpecificEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-CoreEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-CoreNEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-EnterpriseEvalEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-EnterpriseSEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-PPIProEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-ProfessionalEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-ProfessionalNEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-ServerAzureCorEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-ServerDatacenterACorEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-ServerDatacenterNanoEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-ServerStandardACorEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-ServerStandardNanoEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-UtilityVMEdition" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
      <assemblyIdentity name="Microsoft-Windows-WinPE-Package" version="10.0.19041.1" processorArchitecture="amd64" language="neutral" buildType="release" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
    </parent>
    <installerAssembly name="Microsoft-Windows-ServicingStack" version="10.0.19041.153" language="neutral" processorArchitecture="amd64" versionScope="nonSxS" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" />
    <update name="5015684-4_neutral_PACKAGE">

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liam2 · Oct 19, 2022

Hi, does anyone have this problem too?

I can install original LTSC 2021 ISO with no problems on 3 computers.
But after applying any new dynamic update for sources to the ISO, installation fails with:
"a media driver your computer needs is missing"
The same happens on a VirtualBox machine.

Then I tested LTSC 2019 ISO and last dynamic update I applyed (2020-07) works fine, but with the newest ones, installation fails with the same message.

Does anyone know why this happens?

javaspain · Oct 19, 2022

Windows 19045.2006 IoT Enterprise!!!

qwesta said: ↑

As I told you before, there are those who are just interested to see the higher numbers(in the version), but never technically reason and don't even know in principle how they are created or come to them
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Enthousiast · Oct 19, 2022

liam2 said: ↑

Does anyone know why this happens?
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Most likely to happen when setup.exe from "ISO:\Sources\boot.wim\2\sources" doesn't match the one in "ISO:\Sources".

Enthousiast · Oct 19, 2022

Not LTSC.

Code:

Name: en-us_windows_10_iot_enterprise_version_22h2_x64_dvd_51cc370f.iso
Size: 5595213824 bytes (5336 MiB)
CRC32: 9141BDA0
CRC64: 56D082CD2CD1EC5E
SHA256: 2070c6eb71143a1207805f264d756b25f985769452f0bafccadf393c85d47f30
SHA1: 42e763d3a883e97616a134eb0847d9fca240aad9
BLAKE2sp: 7049d375287ddad42873eb5528022a578c0ec597f19c8f078f106c477e9218c4

SKUs:

Code:

[01] 08/09/2022 en-US x64 10.0.19041.2006 Windows 10 Enterprise | Enterprise
[02] 08/09/2022 en-US x64 10.0.19041.2006 Windows 10 IoT Enterprise | IoTEnterprise

javaspain · Oct 19, 2022

Well, there we have Windows 19045.2006 IoT Enterprise

The troll who laughs last, laughs best. LOL!!!!

shhnedo said: ↑

Can you people stop entertaining obvious trolls? You literally wasted a page arguing the obvious with people who get a stiffy by bumping up a number in a text string. Lay off, keep the thread clean(as far as it's up to you, that is).
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Enthousiast · Oct 19, 2022

javaspain said: ↑

Well, there we have Windows 19045.2006 IoT Enterprise

The troll who laughs last, laughs best. LOL!!!!
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Actually he was right, there is no and will be no 19045 (IoT) Enterprise 2021 LTSC ever.

As shown here in the GiF, the 22H2 EP is offered but is not meant for LTSC so it does not work:
https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...prise-n-ltsc-2021.84509/page-135#post-1760482

liam2 · Oct 19, 2022

Enthousiast said: ↑

Most likely to happen when setup.exe from "ISO:\Sources\boot.wim\2\sources" doesn't match the one in "ISO:\Sources".
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Thanks a lot, I put the original setup.exe in "ISO:\Sources", and it worked.
But what do I have to do to put the new setup.exe in "ISO:\Sources\boot.wim\2\sources"?
Integrate the last cumulative update?

Enthousiast · Oct 19, 2022

liam2 said: ↑

Thanks a lot, I put the original setup.exe in "ISO:\Sources", and it worked.
But what do I have to do to put the new setup.exe in "ISO:\Sources\boot.wim\2\sources"?
Integrate the last cumulative update?
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Best to use W10UI for ISO updating and creation, you can use wimlib-imagex to insert the setup.exe but you also could open boot.wim\sources\ in 7zip and drag setup.exe from there and put it in ISO;\sources, should also work.
Example;
Code:
Bin\wimlib-imagex update "boot.wim" 2 --command="add 'setup.exe' '\Windows\sources\setup.exe'"
With setup.exe and boot.wim in the same folder and cmd as admin is opened.

BubuXP · Oct 22, 2022

acer-5100 said: ↑

View attachment 60593

Here is a comparison, yellow =IoT, Red=LTSC (the 5th/6th rows are way too long to fit in the screen).

But you can see that, for example, the windows sandbox feature is enabled in IoT but not in LTSC, other differences are offscreen.
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From the screenshot looks like the opposite, LTSC has sandbox active (1) while IoT no (0)

acer-5100 · Oct 22, 2022

BubuXP said: ↑

From the screenshot looks like the opposite, LTSC has sandbox active (1) while IoT no (0)
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Glad to see someone that looks carefully to my messages, you are obviously right, it's a typo.

Whatever my point was not to produce a detailed and exhaustive list, but just to show that there are some meaningful differences, even if the packages installed are the same.

Then each user can check them himself in matter of 30 seconds.

CocoMaricelli · Oct 23, 2022

Hi,

I can not download an other version than the en-us verion.

Site says

"HTTPError: Forbidden\n at responseErrorThrower (worker.js:195:32)\n at async onGet (worker.js:2772:23)\n at async handleRequest (worker.js:3038:46)"

Actually I could download the en-us version right before.

Any help for this please?

Thank you so much

Regards

SunLion · Oct 23, 2022

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