[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Enterprise/IoT Enterprise (N) LTSC 2021

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Enthousiast, Nov 16, 2021.

  1. Prehmo

    Prehmo MDL Novice

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    Is there any way to have the keyboard layout not be changed to ENG-US continously on Win10 LTSC 2021?
     
  2. case-sensitive

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    The only way i've found so far is to remove it :)
     
  3. Carlos Detweiller

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    If multiple keyboard layouts are installed, there are hotkeys for switching between them. One of them is SHIFT+ALT, unfortunately that combo is often pressed unintentionally, e. g. when gaming.
    The hotkeys can be reassigned or deleted. Personally, I've always removed them.
     
  4. Ricard0

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    #2784 Ricard0, Nov 23, 2022 at 13:09
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    Can someone please explain to me what is the main difference between LTSC 2021 and the IoT version?
    I want to keep my next Windows setup for as long as possible, and I do not like Windows 11 or receiving big feature updates every 6 month.
    My own "End of Live" date is slowly coming on the horizon....:) so this could very well be the last version I'm gonna use. I do not want to be bothered with too much changes the next few years...

    I could now either install the 2019 LTSC (version 1809) (which will be updated untill 2029) or the new version which will receive updates untill 2027 (or even 2032 for the IoT version)
    As things are looking for now, if I can keep things running untill 2029, that would probably be long enough for me.
    Since my hardware is not the most recent, would 1809 LTSC be the better choice? (HP Elite 8300 with i7-3770 processor and 32GB memory)
    It's not the most recent PC, but still a decent performer. I've tried the 'normal' Windows 10 - 21H2 on it and that runs very smooth.

    So the other option is the new IoT version (21H2) That would keep me safe until 2032 (if I last that long...)
    But what is the disadvantage of using IoT instead of the "normal version" of LTSC?
    And what would be the disadvantage of using the 1809 version?
    I do not need things like Cortana, the Store or stuff like that. I prefer to install my software myself. Never used the store.

    Any insight is appreciated!
     
  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Licensing (IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC can be HWID activated, non IoT KMS or KMS38 only) and support (IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC gets 5 + 5 years support, non IoT only 5 years).
    Older (reaching EOS sooner) and not optimized for ryzen 2 or 3 (can't remember which one it was) systems.
     
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  6. Tiger-1

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    haha what a funny thing I was already sending the friend above to you but it wasn't necessary lol...:p:D
     
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  7. Ricard0

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    Thanks for your quick answer!
    So, if I understand it correct, there would be no difference in the operating sytem itself, regarding the possibilities, software features, and options.
    It's only the activation and the EOS date that I shoud take into consideration.

    Does HWID activation mean, that the actication would be automatic, with the 'normal' (not LTSC) Windows 10 licence that's coded in my PC?
     
  8. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    No, every SKU needs a new HWID, MAS can do that for you.
     
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  10. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Nope.
     
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  11. dorfd1

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    you can install the 19045 22h2 enablement, but since the product policy is different in ltsc, you may no get any of the 19045 features. the product policy is why you don't have the weather widget in windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021.
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Why do you keep posting this frankencrap? The whole purpose of LTSC is that it doesn't get feature updates and only installing the 22H2 EP to have it show 19045 is just useless.
     
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  13. dorfd1

    dorfd1 MDL Member

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    I didn't modify anything to get 22h2 ep installed. I installed it because I wanted to.
     
  14. alexxf

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    And the only thing you got was a number, nothing more.
     
  15. Demoxing

    Demoxing MDL Novice

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    I own a Windows 10 Pro license, but it doesn't seem to work in LTSC 2021. Is there a safe way to activate it? I appreciate any help you can provide.
     
  16. (\_/)^(\_/)

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    Pl use kms vl all by abbodi1406 to activate LTSC . no any PRO sku PID is needed .
     
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  17. dorfd1

    dorfd1 MDL Member

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    if you switch to Iot Enterprise LTSC you can hwid activtae it. I HWID activated mine.

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  18. xinso

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    #2798 xinso, Nov 27, 2022 at 15:02
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    You love your 19045 permanently activated EnterpriseS. How about a reboot after C:\Windows\System32\spp\store\2.0\tokens.dat being deleted?

    Q: How to utilize EnterpriseG & IoTEnterpriseS' "Selectable Update"?
     
  19. boo123

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    Windows 10 enterprise IOT enterprise LTSC 2021 has /sfc scannow errors on clean, untouched source image. Is there another source image with no pre integrated updates or that does not result in /sfc scannow errosrs?
     
  20. xinso

    xinso MDL Guru

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    #2800 xinso, Nov 27, 2022 at 15:24
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    I haven't seen one, no matter official or constructed or reconstructed. To me, any image that is accepted by CUs is good.