1. ohenry

    ohenry MDL Senior Member

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    This is similar to work that I have done, but I note that you are not listing OOBE:

    windows10.0-kb5020683-x64_119695f48aa3f28a5f68a3dff367957ef8b0f576.msu

    Is this no longer needed?
     
  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Iirrc it's for upgrades to a new major release, not happening on LTSC.
     
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    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  4. 3fc5ix8k

    3fc5ix8k MDL Novice

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    It seems there are 4 updates integrated into the LTSC 21H2 ISO. 2 are security so I want them but 2 are regular updates;

    KB5003791, KB5004331

    As I am only going to install security (and maybe some critical) updates, am I ok to remove these?
     
  5. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    KB5003791 is 21H2
    KB5004331 is .NET update, it's not very security, but still important

    you cannot uninstall the 1st, and should not uninstall the 2nd
     
  6. slackdaddy

    slackdaddy MDL Novice

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    #3327 slackdaddy, Jun 28, 2023
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    To update the ISO without NDP481, it looks like the following are now needed as of 28-Jun-2023:

    defender-dism-x64.cab

    windows10.0-kb5007401-x64_f1bf61d834bb8d9951c7efa23454643daae195b0.cab

    windows10.0-kb5023847-x64_0d515544d250e8d35de07eb37cf84c06284a04aa.cab

    windows10.0-kb5027122-x64-ndp48_b4a399e994cdaa75c9b9bd3771b8670c89e5f17b.msu

    windows10.0-kb5027293-x64_8afd36694e06cee0165f126deff8ba08088d8e5e.msu

    windows10.0-kb5027389-x64_8d1880d95f920fc8a4c2d96ca8d3b44f3e044581.cab

    windows10.0-kb5028579-x64-ndp48_145c2592b00edc66c31d5e3032822cc36e3b2848.msu
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  9. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Still the same LPs version 4.8.9037.9
     
  10. dNz

    dNz MDL Novice

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  11. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Out Of Box Experience (OOBE) update != Out Of Band (OOB) update

    you don't need OOBE update for LTSC
    but you need (or can install) .NET OOB updates
     
  12. osiris13

    osiris13 MDL Novice

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    Hallo,
    i have a Question, it is possible to enable News and Interests in the Taskbar ?

    For the time being I have installed the Explorer Patcher for Windows 11, so I can already see the weather in the tray, it works without any problems.
     
  13. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Is that a store app? If so it defeats the purpose of installing LTSC version.
     
  14. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Remember the world is analogue. There are many variations even on how and why you install LTSx.

    First: LTSC has better policies, and even if you install all the crap bundled in Home/Pro it's still better.

    Second: appx can be installed w/o the store (and a MS account)

    Third: late W10 and W11 aren't W8 or LTSB 2015, where you can remove every appx and still have a 100% functional system, let alone what will happen in the future.

    Fourth OEMs are slowly but constantly migrating specific utilities (say to control the battery behavior) to appx, so you have to deal with some appx anyway....

    Fifth some appx are just subs for normal w32 apps, even Linux nowadays is an appx, albeit obviously has next to nothing to do with either apps or win32 programs

    I can continue, but you got the point
     
  15. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    With LTSC you use an older build of Windows. Is any theoretical advantages really going to be that great if you're going to use store apps anyway? Why not just use the latest Pro version and change a couple of settings?
     
  16. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Older of what? As long as updates are released, it's a 30 days old build in the worst case.

    Yeah, tell me which setting should I use to get support for 5/10 years on Pro:D
     
  17. slackdaddy

    slackdaddy MDL Novice

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    As far as I can tell, IoT LTSC is the ultimate version for a number of reasons. Firstly, it’s supported for ten years. Out of the gate, it runs lean - you only add what you need, so it’s not a mess of ads, distractions, and unnecessary/unwanted apps. In addition, as an enterprise version it’s fully featured and capable of handling any policies that you throw at it. Finally, it will never get surprising feature updates that add a bunch of nonsense while breaking the previous configuration.

    As a DJ Producer, I moved away from Apple when every MacOS update held the risk of breaking my legacy software’s compatibility while affecting performance. I moved to LTSC back when 2019 was the current version. I’m now running IoT LTSC - properly licensed as an OEM builder of Digital Audio Workstation appliances designed to work in a live environment where updates and upgrades won’t impact the performance. If it’s good enough for an ATM or MRI machine, it’s good enough to host Ableton Live, rekordbox, and all my VSTs. As far as Windows goes, it’s the best.
     
  18. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    I'd really not rather get into the 5gb of updates debate again so I'll drop the issue on the older build topic.
    However, on the other issue, what support are you expecting? Security Updates? Do you really think that Windows Updates do anything to secure you from modern malware?
    I don't even use an Anti-Virus program because they're useless. I use my brain. I avoid clicking things I shouldn't click on.