1. xchris

    xchris MDL Novice

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    #3641 xchris, Oct 14, 2023
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    anyone having issues with the KB5031356? For me (iot 21h2 19044.1288) is impossible to install it always failback , error 0x800f0922 on updates page. Thanks
     
  2. ssjkakaroto

    ssjkakaroto MDL Junior Member

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    Does this affect changing the "Users" folder with sysprep?
     
  3. Nimbus2000

    Nimbus2000 MDL Senior Member

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    I ran into this problem. Using MAS 2.2 option 6 "Troubleshoot", followed by 2 "Dism RestoreHealth" and 3 "SFC Scannow" seems to have fixed the problem. Hopefully it will work for you as well.
     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    That is not a oobe.cmd or setupcomplete,cmd.
     
  5. BubuXP

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    I made a test: in a virtual machine I installed the LTSC 2021 non-IoT, right after I installed the October 2023 cumulative update via Windows Update. After the reboot, Windows Backup and the search bar advice where there, but the existing Edge installation that came preinstalled with Windows wasn't updated to a newer version and can still be uninstalled.
    So I can conclude that on LTSC non-IoT, the updated Edge is not installed/updated, or if any version of Edge is already installed (even the old version that came preinstalled with Windows), the Cumulative Update doesn't update it.
     
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  6. qwesta

    qwesta MDL Senior Member

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    I use LTSC 2021 on one of my PCs, which I keep updated with W10UI whenever there is an update or updates.
    Whenever I check Edge, it is always updated as you can see here

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  7. BubuXP

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    #3647 BubuXP, Oct 16, 2023
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    The main problem is that if you have Edge uninstalled on LTSC it could be re-installed by updates. I am trying to understand when this happens. On my main installation of LTSC IoT, Edge returned after doing October CU, now I'm doing some test with various LTSC install, I will report later.

    Also consider that Edge has its autoupdate features (scheduled tasks and services), so if you keep Edge installed on the system, it's normal that it's updated.



    UPDATE:
    after testing various installations, I can confirm that Cumulative Update installs Edge only on LTSC IoT version, not in regular LTSC. Windows Backup is installed in both versions.
     
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  8. Enthousiast

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    #3648 Enthousiast, Oct 17, 2023
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  9. InBloatsDen

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    Maybe adding through command prompt would work.
    Code:
    net user USERNAME PASSWORD /add
    (optionally make it an admin account)
    Code:
    net localgroup administrators USERNAME /add
    Passwords can easily be changed from the ctrl+alt+del screen when logged in as well. The less we have to use the garbage settings and account apps, the better.
     
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  11. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    LTSC can't be processed by UUP>ISO, there is no UUP file set for LTSC available.

    My post you link at is not a full UUP file set, they are updates only, use W10UI for integrating them into an existing ISO.
     
  12. Lurkerino

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    Sorry but what are the differences of the IoT version exactly? Is it better than the regular one?
     
  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Code:
    • Difference between Iot and Non-Iot Windows Enterprise LTSC 2021:
      • Licensing - Non-Iot version supports the KMS license but not the Digital license. Iot version supports the Digital license and after the update 19044.2788, it supports the KMS license as well.
      • Sandbox - Initial release (19044.1288) of Iot LTSC didn’t have sandbox but non-Iot version had. Later updates enabled it in Iot as well, so there is no difference anymore.
      • Reserved storage feature - Iot doesn’t have reserved storage feature and it’s install takes less space in installation. (Feature is not much important for LTSC release)
      • Windows Update - Iot is supported till 2032 and Non-Iot is supported till 2027. Conclusion, Iot LTSC is better.
    Source massgrave website.
     
  14. Lurkerino

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    #3654 Lurkerino, Oct 21, 2023
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    Thanks man I wanted to try this version but I don't know if I should use this one or go back to 2016 LTSB/2019 LTSC instead.
    EDIT: Can I use KMS_VL_ALL to activate the IoT version? I don't know what the HWID activation is.
     
  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    That depends on your needs, when you don't want/need the features 2021 LTSC offers then the older ones could be fine, for example on my older systems i run 2016 LTSB and it runs very well on them.
     
  16. Lurkerino

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    Do you know where I can check the differences of their features? My system is not that old i5-6500, 8 GB Ram, Radeon R9 380, SSD, etc. I'm just looking for the version with less bloatware since the only window things I use are the notepad and disk cleanup also can I use KMS_VL_All to activate the Iot version too? Thanks.
     
  17. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Will run all LTSB/LTSC versions but i would run 2016 LTSB or 2019 LTSC on it.
     
  18. NewbWin

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    I apologize for being new to Windows 10, as it's not my primary operating system for daily use. I have several questions related to Windows 10 installation:

    1. With an older system featuring LGA 1150 4th Gen i3, 4GB of RAM, and a 400GB SSD, which version of Enterprise LTSC IoT would perform better?

    2. Given my older system, it seems my only viable option is LTSC IoT, which comes with less bloatware.

    3. Can LTSC restore some of the features found in Windows 10 Pro, such as Windows Defender or Cortana?

    4. Does Windows 10 LTSC IoT still include telemetry or other pre-installed bloatware? If so, what scripts or software should I use to remove them?

    5. Is it possible to install Windows 10 LTSC IoT offline and obtain security updates for offline installation?

    6. How can I create a bootable USB stick for the Windows 10 LTSC IoT ISO in Windows 7?

    7. What free firewall and antivirus options are suitable for Windows 10 LTSC IoT, or should I stick with Windows Defender?
    I'm sorry for asking basic questions, as Windows 10 can be quite technical for someone as a regular user.Thank you.
     
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    1. With an older system featuring LGA 1150 4th Gen i3, 4GB of RAM, and a 400GB SSD, which version of Enterprise LTSC IoT would perform better
    2. => install ltsc iot 2021

    3. Can LTSC restore some of the features found in Windows 10 Pro, such as Windows Defender or Cortana?

    4. yes add regulated package , to add windows store write wsreset -i in powershell as admin two time

    5. ltsc iot have defender avaible

    6. Does Windows 10 LTSC IoT still include telemetry yes reduced
    7. => not windows store / no bloatware

    8. Is it possible to install Windows 10 LTSC IoT offline and obtain security updates for offline installation?
    9. yes like windows 10 standard

    10. How can I create a bootable USB stick for the Windows 10 LTSC IoT ISO in Windows 7?

    11. use windows 10 base windows 7 too old

    12. What free firewall and antivirus options are suitable for Windows 10 LTSC IoT, or should I stick with Windows Defender?
    13. => symantec endpoint or trellix endpoint security avaible on mydigitalife
    @NewbWin
     
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  20. Enthousiast

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    If you don't need the latest features of win 10 21H2 i would suggest to install 2016 LTSB.

    IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC is the same as normal Enterprise 2021 LTSC.

    Cortana is deprecated and defender is in all non server SKUs.

    Same level as normal Enterprise 2021 LTSC and all Enterprise LTSC or non LTSC can set it to "0".

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...h1-22h2-vb_release.80763/page-16#post-1571109

    Same as for all windows 7/8/10/11.

    Windows firewall will be fine.