1. Lurkerino

    Lurkerino MDL Novice

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    Do you know where I can check the differences of their features? My system is not that old i5-6500, 8 GB Ram, Radeon R9 380, SSD, etc. I'm just looking for the version with less bloatware since the only window things I use are the notepad and disk cleanup also can I use KMS_VL_All to activate the Iot version too? Thanks.
     
  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Will run all LTSB/LTSC versions but i would run 2016 LTSB or 2019 LTSC on it.
     
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  3. NewbWin

    NewbWin MDL Junior Member

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    I apologize for being new to Windows 10, as it's not my primary operating system for daily use. I have several questions related to Windows 10 installation:

    1. With an older system featuring LGA 1150 4th Gen i3, 4GB of RAM, and a 400GB SSD, which version of Enterprise LTSC IoT would perform better?

    2. Given my older system, it seems my only viable option is LTSC IoT, which comes with less bloatware.

    3. Can LTSC restore some of the features found in Windows 10 Pro, such as Windows Defender or Cortana?

    4. Does Windows 10 LTSC IoT still include telemetry or other pre-installed bloatware? If so, what scripts or software should I use to remove them?

    5. Is it possible to install Windows 10 LTSC IoT offline and obtain security updates for offline installation?

    6. How can I create a bootable USB stick for the Windows 10 LTSC IoT ISO in Windows 7?

    7. What free firewall and antivirus options are suitable for Windows 10 LTSC IoT, or should I stick with Windows Defender?
    I'm sorry for asking basic questions, as Windows 10 can be quite technical for someone as a regular user.Thank you.
     
  4. pm67310

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    1. With an older system featuring LGA 1150 4th Gen i3, 4GB of RAM, and a 400GB SSD, which version of Enterprise LTSC IoT would perform better
    2. => install ltsc iot 2021

    3. Can LTSC restore some of the features found in Windows 10 Pro, such as Windows Defender or Cortana?

    4. yes add regulated package , to add windows store write wsreset -i in powershell as admin two time

    5. ltsc iot have defender avaible

    6. Does Windows 10 LTSC IoT still include telemetry yes reduced
    7. => not windows store / no bloatware

    8. Is it possible to install Windows 10 LTSC IoT offline and obtain security updates for offline installation?
    9. yes like windows 10 standard

    10. How can I create a bootable USB stick for the Windows 10 LTSC IoT ISO in Windows 7?

    11. use windows 10 base windows 7 too old

    12. What free firewall and antivirus options are suitable for Windows 10 LTSC IoT, or should I stick with Windows Defender?
    13. => symantec endpoint or trellix endpoint security avaible on mydigitalife
    @NewbWin
     
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  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    If you don't need the latest features of win 10 21H2 i would suggest to install 2016 LTSB.

    IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC is the same as normal Enterprise 2021 LTSC.

    Cortana is deprecated and defender is in all non server SKUs.

    Same level as normal Enterprise 2021 LTSC and all Enterprise LTSC or non LTSC can set it to "0".

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...h1-22h2-vb_release.80763/page-16#post-1571109

    Same as for all windows 7/8/10/11.

    Windows firewall will be fine.
     
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  6. Carlos Detweiller

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    GVLK for IoT Enterprise 2021 was only added with a recent CU, it didn't exist before. So, if your media used for upgrade is older than the build the GVLK was added, it is, of course, not known to Setup, and you cannot use it.

    Either create upgrade media containing this CU, or, use the default key from product.ini for upgrade, then install latest CU, then change to the GVLK.
     
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  7. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Just upgrade to normal LTSC 2021
    you can change key to IoT LTSC after upgrade (and updating if you need KMS activation)

    there's still some time until 2027-01, using IoT currently is superfluous
     
  8. pharma

    pharma MDL Novice

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    Thanks @Carlos Detweiller and @abbodi1406 for your responses and seems considering IoT may have been a bit premature on my part. It's good to know the cause of the problem I had and will use your advice and suggestions when I plan my next upgrade.
     
  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  11. NewbWin

    NewbWin MDL Junior Member

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    My apologies, it's actually an LGA 1150 with an Intel Pentium G32xx series processor.Mainly usage are light browsing and working on some office documents.

    I'm wondering about the differences between 21H2 and 2016 LTSB. I checked, and it seems that the support for 2016 LTSB ended in 2021 but has extended support until 2026. Should I go ahead and install 2016 LTSB?

    Regarding telemetry, I plan to disable it at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection by setting it to 0. Are there any other telemetry or services that I should disable? Can you recommend any scripts or applications to help with this?
    I just want to ensure there are no extra services displaying advertisements , consuming processor resouces and using up my 4G data bandwidth from my phone.I have a limit for 4G tethering from my telecommunications carrier.

    Thank you for the link. Which update should I download if I install it?
    a0334f31ea7a3e6932b9ad7206608248f0bd40698bfb8fc65f14fc5e4976c160 *en-us_windows_10_iot_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_dvd_257ad90f.iso

    There are different types of KB updates, like LCU, Out Of Box Experience (OOBE) Update, NDP35-48, and NDP35-481. Which one should I install?

    Regarding antivirus, will Windows Defender provide sufficient real-time protection when I'm offline? For instance, when I plug in a thumb drive that may contain malicious .docx files?

    Is Windows Defender a separate software, and does it require Windows Updates to keep Windows Security up to date while preventing Window update auto-enable the telemetry that been disable ?
     
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  14. n.tesla

    n.tesla MDL Novice

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    Worth reading through SiSyPHuS guidlines/instructions. HardeningKitty will do most of the leg work work for you.

    EDIT: Instructions for 21H2 are in german only so you need to translate and keep in mind that file paths may be different between regional versions of windows.
     
  15. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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  16. AnthonyStark

    AnthonyStark MDL Novice

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    I'm on Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 21H2 and I'm trying to install Windows Calculator using winget:
    Code:
    winget install 9WZDNCRFHVN5 --source msstore
    On "Starting package install..." it fails, error shown is:
    Failed to install or upgrade Microsoft Store package. Error code: 0x8024500c
    Can you help me fix this and tell me what is causing the error, thanks.
     
  17. Mister Dev

    Mister Dev MDL Novice

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    You first need to install MS Store into LTSC, e.g., by running the following command in PowerShell as admin:

    wsreset -i
     
  18. nonlin01

    nonlin01 MDL Junior Member

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    Is it not easier to just run any free portable calculator rather than go to the effort to put back the original (but removed) Windows one?