1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    You can activate all supported windows SKUs with kms (local kms server emulation = offline), kms38 (offline and working without any renewal needs till 2038), hwid (online) or key (online), nothing is blocking you.

    Don't know what you mean by "i can manage it more effectively compared to hwid....".
     
  2. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    I meant I can control the kms server so in future I can remove a system/windows install from getting kms activation but in hwid once i activate then it is out of my control (like if I sell that system in future then can't remove activation from it).
     
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    pm67310 MDL Guru

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  4. windsman

    windsman MDL Expert

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    @pm67310

    moving here since last update :

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  5. asabater

    asabater MDL Member

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    to loss hwid you only need to change some pieces of hw...
     
  6. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    I know but the system to be sold will most likely have mobo+processor combo so that is not possible unless I sell mobo & processor separately.
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #3747 Enthousiast, Dec 18, 2023
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    HWID is mostly based on LAN/Mobo, and what does it matter when the system has a HWID? It's linked to the hardware.
     
  8. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    In my region many ppl buy those ultra cheap win 10/11 keys after installing windows so if system is already HWID activated then they will ask me to do the work to install their purchased key as they typically don't have much tech knowledge regarding windows. This is why I use kms & now kms38 also looks good.
     
  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    So they prefer to buy a questionable key instead of the free auto-activation by hwid when installing windows? And why would you use kms(38) when they ask you to install that questionable key then?
     
  10. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    I know but here the ppl thinking is like that only. By kms38 I meant that if for some reason kms is not available as option for activation/some other issue then it can be used & later it will be uninstalled while selling the system assuming kms38 can be uninstalled because if not then I will stick to kms.
     
  11. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    The only thing you have to do to re-activate after re-installing windows after using hwid activation is to turn on the internet.
     
  12. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    I know & that's the issue for me as i don't want to sell a system which will get activated automatically after first connection to internet as ppl I am going to sell would most likely be buying their own key to install later expecting windows to be in trial mode.
     
  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Then they should stop buying questionable aka stolen keys from criminals who scan the ftp servers for keys, among other methods and start enjoying the fact that windows was free for a very long time and continued to be free since we invented hwid on the fly generation tools and the fact that only a retail re-install is needed to get the activation back, for free for the remaining of the lifetime of the hardware..
     
  14. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Ask for help on MAS discord server.
     
  15. Windows_Addict

    Windows_Addict MDL Expert

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    @Ace2

    You didn't show full output, diagnostic step and many other things are missing in your output (is that on purpose, why?) Better to show full screenshot.
     
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  16. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    While I support using this version of windows because it has a lot less bloat, I don't know if I would argue to SELL this version of Windows or even put it on a computer for sale. If you had a customer that was very on board with purchasing their own copy of LTSC and would be able to enter their key as soon as they boot up the system, that's one thing. Most people won't be that savvy with OSes. I just feel like this is a potential nightmare in waiting if you have to show receipts ever in the future.
     
  17. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    I plan on selling with maybe 90 days evaluation version & tell the buyer to install whichever version they want before that & activate it. It is more like selling to some forum members & not some big or organized operation so nothing much.
     
  18. Logon

    Logon MDL Junior Member

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    I'm just wondering if editing "hosts" file adding Microsoft related servers might work in your case.
     
  19. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    MS services bypass the hosts file. You could direct them all to localhost and it would do nothing.