1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  2. windsman

    windsman MDL Expert

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    also add these :
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  3. Crononauta

    Crononauta MDL Novice

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    Dear friend,

    i'm evaluating to switch from Windows 11 to Winodws 10 LTSC because i read that this is the best version of the OS.

    Your opinion about negative and positive side ?
     
  4. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    #3924 acer-5100, Apr 6, 2024
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    It's called upgrade. :D


    No one can tell what are your needs and preferences.

    Just install them in parallel then let your brain decide, not the one of someone else.
     
  5. Crononauta

    Crononauta MDL Novice

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    At the moment i prefer Windows 10 (home, pro) becuase i think that it's more stable and fast respect to Windows 11... i hate 11 UI.

    But principal question is:

    - LTSC IoT is based on W10 kernel of 21h2 there are some problem? I know that actually W10 is based on 22h2 and this will be the last version of this OS
    - LTSC IoT security is the same of normal 10 Home/Pro?
    - 21H2 on IoT will be the last version and it will never upgraded to 22H2 but security update will be available to 2030.

    Your idea and opinion?
     
  6. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    22H something mens nothing.

    The major build number counts eg 10240, or 1904x.

    So don't bother of the former.

    As for win 10 it obviously works well, after a decade of refinements.

    W11 is hideous, but you can fix it's GUI easily with start all back or Explorer patcher + classic shell / open shell
     
  7. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

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    #3927 pm67310, Apr 6, 2024
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    lol its easy

    legacy windows 10 ribbon + rights click for windows 11 ( you need to restart after apply )

    => apply to current user only

    upload_2024-4-6_23-3-35.png

    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID\{2aa9162e-c906-4dd9-ad0b-3d24a8eef5a0}]
    @="CLSID_ItemsViewAdapter"
    
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID\{2aa9162e-c906-4dd9-ad0b-3d24a8eef5a0}\InProcServer32]
    @="C:\\Windows\\System32\\Windows.UI.FileExplorer.dll_"
    "ThreadingModel"="Apartment"
    
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID\{6480100b-5a83-4d1e-9f69-8ae5a88e9a33}]
    @="File Explorer Xaml Island View Adapter"
    
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID\{6480100b-5a83-4d1e-9f69-8ae5a88e9a33}\InProcServer32]
    @="C:\\Windows\\System32\\Windows.UI.FileExplorer.dll_"
    "ThreadingModel"="Apartment"
    
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32]
    @=""
    
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID\{e88865ea-0e1c-4e20-9aa6-edcd0212c87c}]
    "System.IsPinnedToNameSpaceTree"=dword:00000000
     
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  8. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    #3928 acer-5100, Apr 7, 2024
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    It's way easier and flexible using Explorer Patcher, no reboot needed and you can get rid of the ribbons as well (including in Win 10)

    upload_2024-4-7_1-48-55.png

    Perhaps if you like the ribbons, StartAllBack does a way better job using ribbons that have a modern style, not the ugly Vistaish ones that look out of place even in Win8.

    upload_2024-4-7_2-50-17.png
     
  9. Crononauta

    Crononauta MDL Novice

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    Only a question, at security level the ISO that are linked in the first page are official?
     
  10. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Homebrew ISOs are forbidden here, so...
     
  11. Crononauta

    Crononauta MDL Novice

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    Differences between MVS ISOs (SVF(/SFX)) and MVS?
     
  12. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    SVF are delta files to get a different ISO from a downloaded one. Say Italian ISO starting from the EN-US one

    Or LTSC starting from Pro.

    It's just a way to keep the download small and to spare huge amount of space on servers.

    That said MS distributes ISOs from different channels using different filenames. Nothing changes. If it's LTSB 2016 is LTSB 2016 no matter the filename.
     
  13. Crononauta

    Crononauta MDL Novice

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    In the last 21H2 Edge is preinstalled or not?

    At security level the LTSC 2021 is on the same level of the Windows 10 22H2 and of Windows 11 23H2?

    Thanks very much
     
  14. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Not a concern. If preinstalled the 2GB wasted can be easily cleaned with the edge remover script from aveyo.

    If, for obscure reasons, you want it and it's not present you can install it even on Linux

    Security from what?

    From a random hacker, there is no difference.

    From MS, LTSC is better than Pro, Server is better than LTSC, Pro is better than Home and so on.

    The lower priced is the SKU, the higher price you pay with your data.
     
  15. Crononauta

    Crononauta MDL Novice

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    Office 365 is not supported on LTSC right?
     
  16. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    No offense but deploying and testing a SKU in a native vhdx (or inside a VM) is matter of 10 minutes, so why not start trying what you're interested to now that you received the basic directions?
     
  17. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Yep, all ISOs are original and genuine MSFT ISOs.

    Worked fine last time i checked.
     
  18. Crononauta

    Crononauta MDL Novice

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    Thanks very much for the info.
     
  19. Crononauta

    Crononauta MDL Novice

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    Thanks very much for the info.

    I ask that because i think that i will switch to LTSC 2021 for a very important computer that is use only for work and i need maximum stability
     
  20. qwesta

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    I'm currently using LTSC 2021 and this office on my system flawlessly