1. 0xExynos

    0xExynos MDL Junior Member

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    Why bother answering if you don't understand my question or can provide a solution. I want to remove WinRE so that the 500+ MB partition doos not create upon installation.
    Via uup I can create ISO without WinRE, in W10UI I didn't stumble on feature to remove WinRE.
     
  2. Paul Mercer

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    #4082 Paul Mercer, Aug 11, 2024
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    just mount your install.wim using DISM and remove the file \sources\install.wim\Windows\System32\Recovery\winre.wim
    then commit and optimize as usual

    repeat for every index if it's more than one
    only one Enterprise LTSC index is enough because you can create all possible virtual editions later using create_virtual_editions.cmd from uup-converter


    gonna build ISO without winre to check if only winre.wim is enough
    upd: yep, only winre.wim is missing in UUP dump ISO, remove just that one file
     
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  3. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Will setup create the partition anyway even if the winre.wim is gone?
    If so, you'd have to use diskpart to create the appropriate partitions and apply and format them.
    In my diskpart/setup script I have the ability to do this automatically for normal bios/mbr stuff, but not for UEFI.
    I can't quite remember why, but I know there was a reason for it. I think you can't have the winre.wim on the system partition for uefi or something. I could be mistaken.
     
  4. 0xExynos

    0xExynos MDL Junior Member

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    I don't think so since Paul mentioned only WinRE.wim is gone.
    From UUP dump, if I skip WinRE, only 100 MB EFI partition is created, the 500 MB Recovery is not.
    upload_2024-8-12_0-20-22.png

    That is interesting, I didn't knew that WinRE can be part of the system partition, if true. Maybe I already have, I don't know. My goal is just to not have that 500 MB partition, since it will break my SSD schema and I'll have to recreate all partitions.
     
  5. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Sorry I didn't explain it very well. I was thinking of editing but I didn't.
    The winrecfg tool that actually assigns the winre.wim to the proper booting instructions I think is what errors out if you try to do it with UEFI if I recall correctly.
    I could be wrong, it's been many years now. If you don't have any winre.wim at all, it's a non-issue as you wouldn't have anything to boot into anyway.
     
  6. 0xExynos

    0xExynos MDL Junior Member

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    What I did is mount the ISO, deleted WinRE.wim, commited and created a new ISO, however, the ISO is not booting. What did I do wrong?

    Commands used in sequential order:

    DISM /Mount-Wim /WimFile:C:\ISO\sources\install.wim /index:1 /MountDir:C:\Mount
    DISM /Unmount-Wim /MountDir:C:\Mount /Commit
    Oscdimg.exe -u2 -bC:\ISO\boot\etfsboot.com -h C:\ISO C:\19044.4717.240716-2003.21H2_RELEASE_SVC_PROD3_CLIENT_X64FRE_EN-US.iso
     
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    @0xExynos
    Code:
    Oscdimg.exe -bootdata:2#p0,e,b"C:\ISO\boot\etfsboot.com"#pEF,e,b"C:\ISO\efi\microsoft\boot\efisys.bin" -o -m -u2 -udfver102 C:\ISO iso.iso
    you should not create files on root system drive C:\

    if you want W10UI.cmd to delete the file for you, edit the script and search for this line
    Code:
    if exist "!mountdir!\Windows\System32\Recovery\winre.wim" (
    and add this line above it
    Code:
    del /f /q "!mountdir!\Windows\System32\Recovery\winre.wim" %_Nul3%
     
  8. 0xExynos

    0xExynos MDL Junior Member

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    #4088 0xExynos, Aug 12, 2024
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    Thanks sensei. Will report soon.

    Edit: That did the trick. Thanks a bunch.

    upload_2024-8-13_0-20-36.png
     
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    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/1571109
     
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    Worked well here too as usual. A job well done

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  12. Project Prisma

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    Hello everyone,

    my system is compatible with Windows 11 but I continue to find bugs everywhere, slowdowns in the context menus and other absurdities that only the new Microsoft management could come up with.

    At the moment I am using 11 but after discovering the existence of Windows 10 LTSC I am seriously thinking of making the switch.

    If I understand the only differences are:
    - support until 2032
    - same level of security and defense features (sandbox, various mitigations, windows defender, etc...)
    - from 2021 there will be no further versions, so the features are those and those will remain
    - lack of windows store, photos app and photo viewer and lack of multimedia player

    Is everything correct? Or are there other things to know?

    In your opinion, given that the new LTSC based on Windows 11 will have the same defect as those based on 10, that is the impossibility of switching from one version to another, in your opinion does it make sense to wait for it? Because maybe in a year a new one will come out and to update you will always have to do a clean installation... Or will the new LTSC based on Windows 11 allow version jumps?

    Let me know, as an alternative I am also evaluating the switch to a Linux distribution like Ubuntu 24.04 and Linux Mint which seem really valid to me, considering that I have been using LibreOffice as an office suite for years. Here too I accept your opinion.

    Thanks
     
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    #4093 Paul Mercer, Aug 17, 2024
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    if you need the store you can add it in elevated cmd with "wsreset -i" command
    but you need ClipRenew.exe and ClipDLS.exe in C:\Windows\System32 folder, you can get those files from any client edition, make sure it's the same version as your build

    you need IoT Enterprise LTSC if you want support til 2032

    Windows 11 LTSC was released months ago to OEMs, it's the same slow thing

    upgrade was always possible from any edition, you need correct upgrade matrix or edit the registry key
     
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  14. Project Prisma

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    Do you think that at the moment it's better stay on 10 LTSC or go with the 11 LTSC?
     
  15. Paul Mercer

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    i think it's either Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC (2021) or Windows 11 24H2 Education
    there's no point in using Windows 11 based LTSC edition, the shell and file explorer are so slow compared to any Windows 10 build
     
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    Difference between Windows 11 Pro and 24H2 Education?
     
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    not much, but you can disable 99% of telemetry with just one group policy setting (like in Enterprise and any LTSC edition)
     
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  18. Project Prisma

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    In conclusion Windows 10 LTSC it's the best
     
  19. Paul Mercer

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    kinda, if you want the newest thing then Windows 11 24H2 is the only option
    Windows 11 LTSC has no advantages over the Windows 10 based version

    also WIndows 11 based server is so weird, it's better to stick with the 20348 build
     
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    My doubt about W11 is that I think that 24H3 will be another improvement... in the crapware and privacy violation direction