[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Enterprise (N) LTSB 2016

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Tito, Jul 21, 2016.

  1. Kalium

    Kalium MDL Novice

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    I know this wasn't exactly what you asked for, but in case you (or anyone else) didn't know there is a third party offering by Torchsoft that does this (and more). It's called Registry Workshop.
     
  2. MMIKEE

    MMIKEE MDL Senior Member

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    Check out: O&O RegEditor 12.0.2172 (Freebie) which also displays this info and can be set as the DEFAULT reg editor...
     
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  3. insid

    insid MDL Novice

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    Not true.

    Just replace regedit.exe and regedit.exe.mui and itwill work even on 10240 (tested) and maybe even on win 8.x (not tested yet)
     
  4. Tito

    Tito Admin / Adviser
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    I specifically mentioned 'back-porting', which is different from frankenbuilding. Mixing binaries from different builds breaks integrity and not always helpful.
     
  5. THUMPer1

    THUMPer1 MDL Junior Member

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    I have multiple Win 10 LTSB Volume_MAK , is there a specific version of LTSB I need because I cant activate my VOLUME_ENTERPRISE version.
     
  6. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    You can contact your official msft VLSC accountmanager for that;)
     
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  7. insid

    insid MDL Novice

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    I did't mean to criticize what you wrote, just wanted to share an helpful info about a problem I solevd months ago.

    Btw, here there is nothing to "backport" (modifing a program to make it working in an older OS) or frankenbuild.

    Regedit is just a program, just like notepad++ or 7zip.It just works w/o any patch or dll swap or whatever trick.

    The mui part is the only "Tricky" one, given most people (me included) always end to forgets them.

    P.S. win 8.x is a no go (makeit working there would require a bit real fankenbuild)
     
  8. Tito

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  9. JohnTravolski

    JohnTravolski MDL Novice

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    Sorry for not quite being in the loop here, I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say 10240 and Win 8.x; are you saying that it only works if you copy the regedit.exe and regedit.exe.mui files from a version of 10240 version of Windows 10? If it was added in 14942, I don't quite understand how that works.

    Just for comparison, I tried copying the files from a version of Windows 10 home running build 17134 to LTSB build 14393 with no success (clicking on Regedit simply gave the looping cursor for a moment and then quit).
     
  10. insid

    insid MDL Novice

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    ;)

    Ok,but, if you want, you can even rename regedit.exe and regedit.exe.mui to something you like ,say regedit1.exe and regedit1.mui.exe, w/o actually replacing the stock one, not even the wndows directory is mandatory in this case.
    Then you can launch the new typing regedit1 instead of regedit,not diferently than using registry workshop or whatever other alternate program
     
  11. insid

    insid MDL Novice

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    Seem that you misunderstood what I wrote.

    Obviously using the regedit version 10240 would be pointless, given it is no different than the one available on 14393.

    You need a NEWER version (I think I used the one taken from 15063), then it will work on 10240,10586 and 14393.

    Be sure you have the file extension visible to avoid mistakes on renaming the files.

    The mui must be in a directory in the same level of the exe, named accordingly to your locale

    If regedit.exe is in \windows, regedit.exe.mui must be in \Windows\en-US (for american english) ,NOT system32 or whatever other dir
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    What happens when you run this in an elevated cmd:
    Code:
    sfc /scannow
     
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  13. insid

    insid MDL Novice

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    What happens doing what?

    If you replace the files,they will be rstored to the stock ones, if you rename the new ones, nothing happens.

    ifyou replace also the hardlinks in win sxs, sfc will return an error about a couple of non fixable errors,and the files will be left untouched
     
  14. JohnTravolski

    JohnTravolski MDL Novice

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    @insid, Okay, thanks, I figured it out. The reason that it didn't work is because when I used the Windows search to find "regedit.exe.mui," it took me to the folder:

    C:\Windows\WinSxS\wow64_microsoft-windows-r..ry-editor.resources_(bunch of random numbers)_10.0.17134.1_en-us_(a bunch of other random numbers)

    So I ended up copying and replacing that file INSTEAD of the one that was in \Windows\en-US, and that's why it didn't work the first time. When I did it your way, it worked perfectly. Thanks!
     
  15. AndyMutz

    AndyMutz MDL Senior Member

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    you can also use the "Debugger" key in "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options", so that when regedit is called upon, regedit1 (or any other alternative) is being executed :)

    -andy-
     
  16. JohnTravolski

    JohnTravolski MDL Novice

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    So here's another question that's not quite clear to me. Since LTSB 2016 is an enterprise version of Windows, supposedly I can turn of telemetry altogether. If I go into the registry editor at the key: Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection and set "AllowTelemetry" to 0, is that all it takes to disable telemetry completely? Or is there something else that I should also do?
     
  17. YOUNEEDTOLOGINTOVIEWTHIS

    YOUNEEDTOLOGINTOVIEWTHIS MDL Junior Member

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    I like ltsb but I'm concerned about the lack of updates... I have a ryzen+vega APU and I don't want to get any performance penalties because the zen/vega/APU windows optimizations are going into CB and CBB instead.

    Does LTSB have worse support for newer hardware than CB or CBB? Or are the feature upgrades since 1607 mainly hardware-independent?
     
  18. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    ^^Only way to know this for sure is by actually installing & using ltsb2016 for few days.There may be no performance penalties,there may be negligible performance penalties or there may be performance penalties only with certain programs/games under certain conditions.
     
  19. BubuXP

    BubuXP MDL Member

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    There are no performance penalties. The problem with LTSB 2016 is that the AMD drivers won't install at all, because they require a newer Windows version. Force-install of the drivers will result with a screen full of graphical glitches.
    In my Raven Ridge build, I ended up using the MSMG Toolkit to strip-down the latest Windows version available and using the PC with it, while waiting the end of the year for the new LTSC release.

    Nvidia drivers instead doesn't require a minimum Windows 10 version, they works in all Win10 versions, even Win7.
     
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  20. lewcass

    lewcass MDL Senior Member

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    #520 lewcass, Jun 9, 2018
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