[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Enterprise (N) LTSC 2019

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  1. chinotto

    chinotto MDL Novice

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    seems complicated... can you get a guide on which updates to download for 17763.1.180914-1434.rs5_release_CLIENT_LTSC_EVAL_x64FRE_en-us?
     
  2. chinotto

    chinotto MDL Novice

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    this version is old....how can you update it with the latest patches?
     
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  4. chinotto

    chinotto MDL Novice

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    Those updates are from May. Where can I find June?
     
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  6. chinotto

    chinotto MDL Novice

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    so all I have to find are updates that say 17763?
     
  7. Gladuin

    Gladuin MDL Novice

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    A colleague of my dad has accidentally wiped his drive, and he has asked me to reinstall windows for him. I was planning on installing LTSC, because he uses the laptop for mail and web browsing anyways. He used Win 7 before, so he probably won't need windows store etc.

    Now, I was wondering when LTSC goes from LTSC 2019 to LTSC 2020 (or whatever the next version is), will that update be downloaded through normal Windows Update?
     
  8. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    Next LTSC is usually three years from the last. End of 2021/start of 2022 is a realistic time.

    No, LTSC will NEVER receive any Feature Updates (aka build upgrades). You will need to get the ISO and update manually. As a side effect, each new LTSC will require new product keys.
     
  9. Gladuin

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    All right, thanks for the straightforward answer. I'll see what's the best option, but seeing as my dad's colleague wasn't planning to upgrade from windows 7, he probably won't care about windows 10 updates.
     
  10. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    The advantage of the LTS Channel is Long Term Support. Ten years of support, counted from the release date. Please note that he will still receive the normal Windows Updates (CU, SSU, Security and Quality updates). LTSC just doesn't get the big "Feature Updates" (completely new OS build).

    Even the 2015 LTSB release still gets updates each month, but it will always stay in the TH1 branch (1507 aka 10240 from 2015).
     
  11. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I didn't have time to update the 1809 Updates Overview, will try to asap.
     
  12. MMIKEE

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    Dell XPS 15 (2020) considerations if using LTSC

    I ordered a Dell XPS 15 (9500 series) Laptop which is equipped with a 2.3/5.1Turbo-GHz Intel Core i7-10875H CPU / 16GB of RAM / 1024GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD / Intel UHD Graphics GPU / Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Max-Q GPU with 4GB of RAM and a 15.6-inch, 3840 x 2400 touch panel.

    And some incarnation of Windows Home-x64 + BLOATware…

    I prefer w10 LTSC and have this OS installed on 2 Desktops and 2 Laptops…

    If possible I want to replace the shipped OS with LTSC if it is not detrimental…

    Dell has 40+ Drivers available to download for this laptop series so acquiring them is not an issue…

    I do not like or use M$ CRAPs, Store, Edge etc and is why I’m a fan of LTSC vs any other incarnation of w10… LTSC has been stable and reliable on my PC’s…

    I would appreciate some feedback from experienced Dell XPS and other users who can shed some light on whether this is doable / feasible or not and what the penalties or shortcomings might be by using LTSC vs shipped DELL OEM OS on this Laptop…

    If LTSC is a poor choice for this Laptop, then what other w10 incarnations are preferable to “Home” ?
     
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  13. Super Spartan

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  14. MMIKEE

    MMIKEE MDL Senior Member

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    @Super Spartan , thanks for this feedback... It will save me many headaches I'm quite sure...
     
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  15. kgtuning

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    @Super Spartan you need the store for nvidia control panel? Does the nvidia driver not supply it?
     
  16. AndyMutz

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    no, you don't.
    there is the nvidia standard driver, which comes with the control panel included.
    and even the DCH driver doesn't need the store, the control panel gets downloaded by windows in the background, even on LTSC.

    -andy-
     
  17. Super Spartan

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    #5398 Super Spartan, Jun 18, 2020
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    Not the DCH drivers. You'll have to download the standard driver. BUT, Dell only provides DCH drivers which in my experience are the best for performance so one would still need the store.

    Here's a tip for anyone with an nVIIDA Graphics card.

    Right click on your desktop then choose nVIDIA Control Panel. Go to Manage 3D Settings from the left pane, then scroll down a bit until you see power management. If you see it's set to OPTIMAL which is the default setting when you install a driver. That's your issue.

    Optimal Power means when there is no draw on the screen, the GPU clock speeds is set 0 MHz to save power and then ramps up once it needs to. Sounds great on paper, works like crap. This is the number one reason why anyone might experience crappy performance from their nVIDIA GPU. What's worse, is that's the default setting in the nVIDIA Control Panel after you install a new driver often leading people to blame the driver for bad performance when it's just the fault of nVIDIA's clowns.

    Set the power management to Adaptive which puts the GPU at lower clock speeds when no GPU intensive apps are in use and it would ramp the clocks up when needed. That actually works. It's the best balance between getting lower heat from the GPU and good performance in games.

    When benchmarking, for the optimal results, it's best to set the power management to High Performance.

    Mind you, after you change the power management to whatever you set it to, a reboot is mandatory for the new clock speeds to take effect.

    Classical nVIDIA Swiss Cheese
     
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  18. kgtuning

    kgtuning MDL Member

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    ahh i see. Thanks
     
  19. Kyle Edwards

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    I have some questions about the creation of an LTSC 2019 ISO

    1 - I need a consumer ISO right ? I can use the 1809 June 2020 updated one ?
    2 - I will need a consumer .SFX of my language and use on SVFX to convert the original consumer ISO to an consumer ISO of my language then take another SFX to convert the ISO of my language to an LTSC of my language right ?
    3 - How I activate the Windows on that ISO so I don't need to do that later ?