[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Final 1607 RS1 Build 14393 + Jan. 2017 Refresh (PC + Mobile)

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Enthousiast, Jul 18, 2016.

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  1. orsone

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    #2781 orsone, Aug 3, 2016
    Sorry MrMagic I doesn't understand what do you tell " dragon board"?
    My doubt is for a pc with legacy bios. can update or not?

    tia

    • :eek:
     
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    #2782 cuteee, Aug 3, 2016
    What's that dragonboard?
     
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    #2783 MrMagic, Aug 3, 2016
    What is that Google?
     
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    #2784 k3lt, Aug 3, 2016
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    #2785 T-S, Aug 3, 2016

    Come on. I guess you are skilled enough to install the flash player in Vivaldi.

    Opera 12 isn't maintained since three years, so yes, it may have problems
     
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    #2786 dzem, Aug 3, 2016
    i am sorry, but can anyone show me a links to this file:

    en_windows_10_multiple_editions_version_1511_updated_apr_2016_x64_dvd_8705583.iso
     
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    #2787 Nucleus, Aug 3, 2016
    Read the OP.
     
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    #2788 EaglePC, Aug 3, 2016
    any thread to give thoughts on this new windows 10 i am very impressed on this build very stable-fast even coming from my no more windows 7 besides are privacy no areo glass like win7 .
    burnt iso to rufus popped in usb 3 port installed in 5 minutes wow.
    system x99 5960k gtx980 ti 32gig corsair dominator ram samsung 950 pro nmve ssd
     
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    #2789 Volfield, Aug 3, 2016
    Does anyone have problem with wifi? I have 2 devices and same problem. After windows load there is no internet and after moment connection is lost and connect angain. After this everything works fine. Overall wifi works very unstable.
     
  10. murphy78

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    #2790 murphy78, Aug 3, 2016
    No it isn't. It simply exports the install index of the esd file to a new install.esd file.
    It does not add any updates and the esd files are the same exact build as the MSDN build.
    I've even exported the install.esd to install.wim and mounted it to check the packages and files to make sure what you're describing is not true.

    I think what's happening is your computer is installing the latest cumulative update before you check. Perhaps it installs it during setup? I don't know if they changed it.
    In previous win10 versions it would only install important setup packages but would download cumulative update the first time the update process ran.
     
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    #2791 TGNT, Aug 3, 2016
    I have a question, do you have to reactivate when installing Windows 10 1067?
     
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    #2792 T-S, Aug 3, 2016

    I think this is what happens. Would be an huge work with nothing in return to rebuild all the ESDs and ISOs just because a tiny update.
     
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    #2793 murphy78, Aug 3, 2016
    MS has never done that and I'm not sure they ever will. The reason they test the versions so much more than the updates is precisely because they need a stable start point in case there are any problems with an update.
     
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    #2794 T-S, Aug 3, 2016

    Obviously.


    I think the only silent and quick rebuild I remember was at the time of the NT sp6 (but was the Sp itself not the ISO)
     
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    #2795 abbodi1406, Aug 3, 2016
    True
    but KB3176929 is also classified as GDR-DU = Dynamic Update = updates downloaded during setup/upgrade
     
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    #2796 murphy78, Aug 3, 2016
    If they do offer the update during setup (in the background) it likely has protections in place in case the update causes some sort of fatal errors.
    The update hasn't been tested as if it were integrated into the build nearly as much as the build itself.
    That's what I'm getting at. They have a process for testing the official builds that takes like a month. While the updates also get tested a lot, it's different as most of the issues they would have are different in that they could be CBS issues or anti-virus not allowing certain updates or a lot of other things.

    It's why the updated builds we see where they include a semi-recent cumulative are all like a few months old, so they can properly test them.
     
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    #2797 murphy78, Aug 3, 2016
    Yah that's what I'm thinking. And as such, it would also get downloaded when running the upgrade from any other MSDN iso.
     
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    #2798 mtrai, Aug 3, 2016
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    I finally have a question I can not seem to find a firm explanation on...I currently use 10 Pro, however I do not use media center but use VLC exclusively, would Win 10 Pro N be a better option? Or should I just install Pro N and check it out?
     
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    #2799 greyaburton, Aug 3, 2016
    in windows 7 to see those, you would have to go into control panel, click the folder options and select. view,and select show hidden files,folders and drives. maybe this is selected?
     
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    #2800 murphy78, Aug 3, 2016
    It has a few more apps and system files that some other programs are sometimes dependent on.
    AFAIK they don't really slow your system down much and are fairly small.
    I mean if you ran benchmarks of pro vs pro n, you'd likely see absolutely no difference.
     
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