1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    @KleineZiege locally created ISOs will always have different checksums.
     
  2. KleineZiege

    KleineZiege MDL Expert

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    I told you
    it can never be the same
     
  3. donmiller

    donmiller MDL Addicted

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    #6123 donmiller, Jan 25, 2021
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    And I'm telling you that it is an admission that there is something quasi-random in the execution of the same identical script on the same identical source files, regardless of whether they are local or not. I wasn't born yesterday.
     
  4. KleineZiege

    KleineZiege MDL Expert

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    #6124 KleineZiege, Jan 25, 2021
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    when I compress the same files, mostly different, in the hash W10UI

    what do you want to achieve ( MVS )

    the hard drive area is constantly changing, the only possibility is mvs - svf

    First Round 1. 19041.1.191206-1406.VB_RELEASE_CLIENTPRO_OEMRET_X64FRE_DE-DE.ISO
    W10UI 9.2
    Code:
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    1/4: windows10.0-kb4562830-x64_NEW.20H2_EP.681.msu
    2/4: windows10.0-kb4580325-x64_Adobe.Flash.msu
    3/4: windows10.0-kb4586876-x64_Kumulatives.Net.3.5.4.8.msu
    4/4: windows10.0-kb4598481-x64_SSU.msu
    
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    Extracting files from update cabinets (.cab)
    *** This will require some disk space, please be patient ***
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    1/7: Windows10.0-KB4562830-x64_PSFX.cab [Enablement / EdgeChromium]
    2/7: Windows10.0-KB4580325-x64.cab [Flash]
    3/7: windows10.0-kb4586858.DU.for.Safe.OS-x64.cab [WinPE]
    4/7: Windows10.0-KB4586876-x64-NDP48.cab [NetFx]
    5/7: Windows10.0-KB4598291-x64_19042.782.cab [LCU]
    6/7: Windows10.0-KB4598481-x64.cab [SSU]
    7/7: Windows10.0-KB4599861-x64_DU.Soures.cab [Setup DU]
    
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    Windows10.0-KB4599861-x64_DU.Soures.cab
    
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    OSCDIMG 2.56 CD-ROM and DVD-ROM Premastering Utility
    Copyright (C) Microsoft, 1993-2012. All rights reserved.
    Licensed only for producing Microsoft authorized content.
    
    
    Scanning source tree (500 files in 41 directories)
    Scanning source tree complete (901 files in 86 directories)
    
    Computing directory information complete
    
    Image file is 6153011200 bytes (before optimization)
    
    Writing 901 files in 86 directories to Win10_19042.782_x64_2021-01-25.iso
    
    100% complete
    
    Storage optimization saved 24 files, 14194688 bytes (1% of image)
    
    After optimization, image file is 6140864512 bytes
    Space saved because of embedding, sparseness or optimization = 14194688
    
    Done.
    
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    First Run W10UI 9.2
    Win10_19042.782_x64_2021-01-25.iso
    CRC32: BFA7F28E
    MD5: 95BDC9E289A385A6728181BF087FCC10
    SHA-1: 5D7CFEEC18E2798F619B655482AFDEC77B7BF1A5
    SHA-256: F6DD50BDEFB71C2B6CAA871EE2C8DC83EC1897A47073024A4A910829DAF6CF95

    Second Run W10UI 9.2
    Edit: /
    fell asleep completely, run again :(
     
  5. 143bpm

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    @abbodi1406 @Enthousiast guys, any idea why MS added those two both SSU to the latest official images? Is it 'by design' you think or may be by mistake?
     
  6. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Afaik, msft didn't mark the old ssu as superseded.

    Iirc, the old ssu was in the ISO build they used for sysprepping, they've added the new updates to that image.
     
  7. ch100

    ch100 MDL Addicted

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    I would say the old one is a kind of baseline, but it may be due to sysprepping and just ignoring it.
    For the baseline 19041 in fact that SSU is superseded, so technically is superseded, only not declared as such.
     
  8. KleineZiege

    KleineZiege MDL Expert

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    #6128 KleineZiege, Jan 25, 2021
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    you're all running Old Scool Sysprep
    a lot more is possible now

    I think I make a video, with office YAOCTRI_v9.0, pump the install.wim to esd under 4GB
     
  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Nobody here is running sysprep (not in this discussion), we're talking about MSFT (badly) sysprepping 20H2 for release.
     
  10. KleineZiege

    KleineZiege MDL Expert

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    uhh I misunderstood that ( Sorry )
     
  11. donmiller

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    upload_2021-1-25_17-15-13.jpeg
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Not with their centrally released ISOs, UUP files never were meant to be used for ISO creation;)
     
  13. donmiller

    donmiller MDL Addicted

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    You got that right! :spoton:
     
  14. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    These posts are close enough :D
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/1506913/
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/1489009/

    old SSU cannot be removed without creating new sysprep images
    they simply don't think it's worth the trouble

    maybe they will do better job with 21H1 ISOs
     
  15. WindowsGeek

    WindowsGeek MDL Expert

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    I just updated to19042..782 no issues so far.:)
     
  16. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  17. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  18. MELERIX

    MELERIX MDL Expert

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