[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Final Build 19041/2/3 (PC) [20H1/2 / 21H1 vb_release]

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Enthousiast, Dec 10, 2019.

  1. mdl052020

    mdl052020 MDL Addicted

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    Must say your win7 activation script tool is working like a charm on latest intel machines for offline permanent activation. UEFi with GPT disk layout & CSM enabled machines .Great Job brother n Thanks a lot.
     
  2. rcstar6696

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    #6922 rcstar6696, Apr 5, 2021
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    because you don't even know what telemetry is if you think all telemetry is just "constant spying" ... you wouldn't be spreading misleading information here otherwise. That was never how telemetry worked and that was never the purpose.

    You can go ahead and file an EU GDPR complaint about what's being collected in Windows 10 or other products. You know what? You won't go anywhere with that. When Microsoft says that the telemetry is "anonymous and includes no personal identifiable information." they really do mean it. This is something that you don't clearly understand.

    Everything that's being collected can be viewed in the Diagnostic Data Viewer application. It's the same data that's being sent back to Data Analysts at Microsoft, the people that are responsible for viewing such data and working with Software Engineers and Program Managers to solve issues.

    It has nothing to do with ignorance, I'm one of the few people here, as a developer, that utilizes telemetry to improve applications. Turning that off prevents us from making any enhancements or changes. Do you want a broken application or OS when there's no crash logs being sent? Did you know that games also submit crash logs to so the developers can fix whatever issue that crashed the game?

    If you think that an idiot in the r/privacy subreddit (who has no idea how to use Fiddler properly which was originally written by someone here at MS) is smarter than me, then that's on you. It's the reason why I don't engage with r/privacy people that much because all they think about is: Calculator is "bloatware", "Start Menu is "bloatware", Trackpad driver is "bloatware", Camera is "bloatware", etc.

    Telemetry and bloatware are two words that have lost its meaning overtime, all just because people use it in the wrong context as possible. Just wait till you find out that Windows 8(.1), 7 and older OSes, including LTS(B|C) also have telemetry. Now, what you're going to do?

    I'm also not sure how you think that Microsoft from decades ago is still the same today, when it's actually not. If all you care about is complete 100% privacy, then you're better off cutting your ethernet cable rather than arguing with someone who in fact uses telemetry to do what I've stated above. You're already losing half of your privacy by being online.
     
  3. Gadget-Man

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    I’m trying to work out how to download this link below, and I have no clue what I’m doing.

    A501185D166990C3256D48FF241AEBF48778AACC *en-gb_windows_10_consumer_editions_version_20h2_updated_march_2021_x64_dvd_0fa35355.iso

    It says ID: 6929 at the top of the various links.

    Could someone enlighten me please, thanks.
     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  5. Gadget-Man

    Gadget-Man MDL Novice

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    Thanks, there seems to be en rar download link, but the sfv link is en_gb.

    is there an easier way to get it maybe.
     
  6. Gadget-Man

    Gadget-Man MDL Novice

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    Ok thanks, sorry I’m quite rusty these days, I just wanted to get the en_gb iso that’s all, to save mucking about afterwards.

    cheers.
     
  7. Gadget-Man

    Gadget-Man MDL Novice

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    All sorted, many thanks for your help to you both.
     
  8. donmiller

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    #6929 donmiller, Apr 5, 2021
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    Since I can't redact what I said, "UUP is a waste of time for me...", then some clarification is in order.

    There are so many MSFT sources for Windows ISOs, it has been easier for me to just download and install an MSFT ISO and let Windows Update (WU) manage the update process after that, rather than download the files from UUPDUMP.NET and build an updated ISO, and then do an in-place upgrade or clean install with that UUP ISO.

    My comment about MSFT not "playing dice" with their ISOs is derived from the idea that when you download an MSFT ISO, you can often verify that download with an SHA1 or SHA256 hashcode. Whenever I've built UUPDUMP.NET ISOs, they are always a different size and that doesn't support the use of a consistent hashcode for verification. It feels like I'm playing dice with the size of the UUP ISO.

    It is definitely fascinating to watch a UUP script download and create a UUP ISO. Hypnotizing! I've done this many times and watched my whole afternoon evaporate! If building UUP ISOs is something that you like to do (and you have the time to do it) then don't let my comments stop you. Continue on...
     
  9. exe csrss

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    All credits go to @nononsence for original WindSLIC
     
  10. BAU

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    #6931 BAU, Apr 5, 2021
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    - EU GDPR was the answer to microsoft's total lack of respect for user privacy starting with the "free" Windows 10 in 2014.
    Microsoft kept invading user privacy even after GDPR went in effect in mid 2018.
    Misleading users and "resetting" privacy choices was the favorite circumventing MO, many of us have seen it with our own eyes.

    - Telemetry data indeed won't make a case, that's by design - It's virtually anonymous for 3rd parties.
    But microsoft themselves can un-anonymize it quite easily. Hint:Digital license? you're not anonymous (that's the main reason why ms extended support for more editions).
    And Diagnostic Data Viewer is not just incomplete, but worse - it's cherry-picked - useless for the privacy-conscious

    - Telemetry by default, often with incomplete opt-out is the cancer of software design
    To hell with unsolicited "improvements" that are actually RAT-like "studies", "coverage", "experiments", and skewed "A-B testing".
    Draining processing power, bloating software, playing mind-tricks on users, grabbing every little detail on how it is used? No. Bug reports/surveys? I'm game!
    Then it's the perverse effect on developers more and more ignoring actual user feedback and get disconnected from reality, because "trust the data".
    Windows 10 got better after 1903 because of resumed actual testing in-house (due to cpu vulnerabilities implications, not having at least a skeleton testing crew would have hurt a lot). Insider program reports and the extended telemetry that comes with it, still lacking so many years later.

    - Not sure what's with the "bloat" shouts into the mix, seems whataboutism to end the telemetry subject
    But oh, sweat summer child, I got (old) news for you. Some have had glimpses of ml picture recognition, under the guise of "sorting library better". Even less have caught environment recordings. Coincidentally arabic users. Not much waves about it, as it was supposedly done for a good cause, war on terror and all that. I'm so glad that stopped, and our persian friends can focus on real issues, such as WaaS on s**tty internet ;) Now for some actual conspiracy theory: EternalBlue was an inside job..

    - Fast forward to 2020
    Microsoft is back to their old mischief, with anything remotely pesky done via ChrEdge.
    Different rules apply, easier to exfiltrate stuff, they don't give two s**ts about GDPR anymore because they don't have to - it's genius!
    So as long as we don't use (and uninstall) ChrEdge, we can drop the tinfoil hat (assuming prior opt out of default telemetry stuff via settings)

    I genuinely enjoy Windows 10 more atm, not having to worry about host blocks and other rabbit holes - stuff I don't want is now condensed in the browser I do not use (bonus: 21H1 not restoring ChrEdge, for now), Education has less bloat and telemetry points by default, privacy choices stick after update/upgrade, and I can address the slower performance via online package removal without the os going crazy like it used to.
     
  11. Slarko

    Slarko MDL Novice

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    Why are you deleting your own posts after a couple of days/weeks? Your profile is literally empty. This is not how a forum works. If you have a problem with your previous posts it's better to not post anything.
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    The LCU now is taking care of that;)
     
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  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Profile posts is not the forum, what forum posts (in the threads) did he delete?
     
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  14. BAU

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    Well, .906 at least did not. Does that even count? Sure fells like it doesn't.
    I guess they can start ignoring EndOfLife registry keys at any time, if more people do it ;)
     
  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    LCU kb5000842 (19043.906) integrates Edge Chromium.
     
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  16. rcstar6696

    rcstar6696 MDL Senior Member

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    #6937 rcstar6696, Apr 5, 2021
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    They're talking about the posts replaced with -snip- which I've been doing for more than a year.
    Is there anything wrong with someone not wanting their posts cached on search engines? No. Reddit has had that functionality (without editing or deleting posts) for years ... I'm also not sure about what that has to do with my posts I've posted in this thread, so move on.
     
  17. BAU

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    #6938 BAU, Apr 5, 2021
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    yes
    technically, it breaks the flow of threads
    it can be seen as annoying / disrespectful / disingenuous / trolling towards the other members interacting in the board, now or at some point
    if your past posts don't stand the test of time, then maybe you lack the conviction or say dumb stuff ;)
    besides, where you not just declaring privacy concerns dead and buried? why the hate on crawlers then? I don't buy it, it's always about people.
    if somebody harasses you online, I am sorry, that's bad. If you need your quoted posts deleted as well I'm sure the mods would be receptive ;)
     
  18. chlynx

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    What is LCU? How Windows 10 19043.867 is performing according to you? is it good to go for a normal user?
     
  19. exe csrss

    exe csrss MDL Junior Member

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    Wait, is Windows 10 21H1 released?
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