[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10525

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  1. janos666

    janos666 MDL Member

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    #461 janos666, Aug 20, 2015
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    According to my personal experience, being "permanently" activated through the insider program leaves you with two choices:
    1: your can opt out from the insider program and keep your current installation permanently activated but you won't be able to re-install and re-activate 10240 (only by going through 10130 before that build expires)
    2: you can remain in the program and either carry over your activation status to later builds during upgrades (but necessarily including some preview upgrades in this case) or may be re-activate a clean installation of some later preview builds through the insider program (*although I am not exactly sure about this last bit, it will probably depend on the particular builds*)

    So, the inconvenient question with option 1 is if you can carry over this "insider permanent" activated status to the next retail version by upgrading with the masses (to whatever build number they will end up with by the time they decide 'everybody' should upgrade their retail installations except those with the 'long term service' enterprise option). In that case, all you need to secure your "free" activated status is a thorough incremental backup of your installation, so you won't be force into a clean install. Although, changing your motherboard will also invalidate this "insider permanent" status, I guess (it should because it invalidates every OEM-like activations like every Win7/8->10 upgrades and this is a similar status, you don't have a retail Win10 key per se...). Or may be this "permanent" status will expire at some point and you will need to re-activate a preview build as an insider (back to the * part above: some of the slow ring builds will probably re-activate if necessary as "insider permanent" and that new activation will be valid again for some time, perhaps even for the next retail build like it happened with 10130->10240, so you can always enjoy a retail build "permanently" if you participated in it's preview testing...)
     
  2. EFA11

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    there is a link floating around somewhere, but now all insiders are required to have a genuine license that can upgrade to 10.
     
  3. janos666

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    #463 janos666, Aug 21, 2015
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    I can confirm that either 1: that's not true or 2: an "insider permanent" activation fully qualifies as "retail activation" in this case.
    I have a PC which never saw any retail Windows key, nor any unofficial/pirate activator/loader in it's life. I assembled it from consumer parts (without OEM Windows license) and the first Windows OS it saw was a Win10 preview build. I kept upgrading it in the fast ring up to 10525. I even opted out of the insider program with 10240 for some time before I jumped back today for this 10525 upgrade. It never lost the "permanently activated" status. The only way I would lose it if I lost the installation (format C: and clean install without backup).
     
  4. genenioo

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    I actually wonder how they're going to deliver this "update" once it's ready.

    What I don't get is why they still need new builds to deliver new features and improvements, why aren't they pushed out like cumulative updates instead? It's doesn't really make much sense these days to download a complete ~ 3GB ESD file and perform kind of a new install just because some components have been updated. It's not like they changed every aspect of the OS that makes it necessary. IMO, they should have stopped at build 10240 and keep that up to date (forever) via cumulative MSU packages that can be slipstreamed via DISM, where each new release supersedes the previous one. Service Packs are dead, so what about Builds?
     
  6. genenioo

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    #466 genenioo, Aug 21, 2015
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    I don't think they're gonna have people start over with this or any other builds. When you think about it even going to 10 was an 'upgrade' for a lot of people. I certainly hope not--how much time do people have--although it could be good for the computer business. I think you're on the right track with cumulative updates. They'll really just be service packs but they just won't call them that. They've already changed version numbers with the number after 10240, so I don't think they'll hesitate to replace 10240 with different build number as well. Service Packs are indeed dead:

    Windows 2000: 4
    Windows XP: 3
    Windows Vista: 2
    Windows 7: 1
    Windows 8: none
    Windows 10: ???
     
  7. trik

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    where is the link ??
     
  8. fkar

    fkar MDL Recognized Advisor

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    You gotta read this thread and search out for the links. Please don't annoy the peoples here.
     
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  9. antonio8909

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    Can anybody answer me? Did anyone have sound bugs in this build?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  10. freiwald

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    you are asking all day and no one answered so probably no one has sound issues. i don't use the insider build, but on the normal windows 10 edition i never had sound issues. so either it's a weird bug (maybe no clean install) at your end or wrong settings or a driver error. try older drivers.
     
  11. antonio8909

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    I cant try older drivers because doesnt run in Windows 10.
    Anyway thanks for answer
     
  12. freiwald

    freiwald MDL Senior Member

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    if they were running on 7/8/8.1 they will probably run in windows 10 too.
    for example i got a VIA HD Audio onboard card. the newest driver provided my windows update (and the only one available for windows 10) does not work probably. you can't enable enhancements like equalizer etc and it sounds like s**t. but when i install a old windows 7 driver, which i used on 8 too, i get the same good sound just like on windows 8.
    try compaitble mode or something like this. or install it manually in the device manager.
    good luck
     
  13. antonio8909

    antonio8909 MDL Guru

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    I try all but they didnt work
     
  14. Fckr

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    Name of the audio hardware?
     
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