[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14986 (PC)

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Enthousiast, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. naseap

    naseap MDL Senior Member

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    Just edited the registry and I got the regular esd file, converted to iso no problems. Have been using the same key for at least the last 10 or so builds. Starting update process now.
     
  2. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    Yea this new UUP update method doesn't seem to need any waiting time at all, I was offered it immediately too, but as soon as I used the reg to go back to normal ESD method, nothing offered
     
  3. antonio8909

    antonio8909 MDL Guru

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    Yesterday, with a newer insider build with UUP, it doesn't work. I left the computer 12 hours and always the computer was Up to date. In some countries UUP doesn't work as expected.
     
  4. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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    I think the bottom line is MS wants it there way:D
     
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  5. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    I remember you seem to have problems getting new builds quite often even without UUP?

    MS have a lot of work to do to get things rolling out smoothly, it's a mess atm
     
  6. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    Yep, that's the truth

    You won't stop using Windows 7? OK, we'll break Windows Update on 7 then
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Now i've installed 14971 again, did the reg trick manually (when i used the regfile, i believe it only did the upper line, not the second, doing a vm install to test).

    Logged in at the insider part.

    Windows Update only found the defender update.

    Shutting that system down for the night, tomorrow i'll see what gets offered :)
     
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  8. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    I think I got some redistrib update (Always disable defender from group policy after first boot)

    I checked the registry and it had changed both entries, rebooted and checked for updates, no build

    Just a guess but I think UUP is on a different update method to full ESDs
     
  9. naseap

    naseap MDL Senior Member

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    I initially got the update using the new UUP but never tried installing it. I deleted the download folder in windows update, did the reg edit and ran windows update again. This time it downloaded the regular esd file. Converted that to an iso, upgraded my build without any problems.
     
  10. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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    I'm getting dizzy :D
     
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  11. antonio8909

    antonio8909 MDL Guru

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    Finally, Spanish ESD is showing up. FINALLY
     
  12. underground182

    underground182 MDL Junior Member

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    thank for me jejeje @cristianlpu
     
  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Nah, i leave defender running, it shows me WU is working when it downloads the definitions :D

    Just confirmed the reg file does it's job properly :)

    I will undo it, and test what naseap says he did.
     
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  14. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    Defender mucks about too much IMO, flags MTK, takes an age to tell it to ignore it, seems to want to scan everything so thoroughly and slowly it becomes a bottleneck for the OS, and last review I read it came close to last in detection rates anyway

    For VMs / test machines I don't bother with AV, machines that I don't use for anything critical / important passwords / banking etc, I just leave them naked :D
     
  15. antonio8909

    antonio8909 MDL Guru

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    I get it from my Windows Update so no. Sorry
     
  16. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I've tried to reproduce this and i can say it doesn't work.

    Installed 14971 Pro x64 en-US

    Logged in at the insider app

    Started WU and it downloaded 14986 100%

    Stopped WU service

    Deleted SoftwareDistribution folder

    Used the reg file

    Started the WU service

    It only downloaded the defender definitions
     
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  17. jygoro

    jygoro MDL Senior Member

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    My adventure with the new UUP:
    Yesterday I enabled Fast Ring on build 14971.
    Today just after booting to desktop I did open Settings and build 14986 was there waiting with a 0% without me needing to check for updates.
    After 30 minutes the 0% was still there but looking at task manager I saw how Delivery Optimization service was using the CPU.
    4 hours later a button "Install now" appeared. At that moment $Windows.~BT folder size is only 70Mb and SoftwareDistribution has a 1,5Gb file inside.
    After pressing the button and waiting for 20 minutes the $Windows.~BT folder is now ~2Gb. It asks me to restart PC.
    After 40 minutes and 3 restarts it updated successfully to build 14986.

    So the only thing I noticed is it takes much more time to start downloading the build. It seems like it's first checking the files on the system and then downloads the different .esd files. Maybe in next week build we will really notice a speed up when downloading the new bits.
     
  18. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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