[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16299 (PC) RS3_Release

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Enthousiast, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. DontuZoru

    DontuZoru MDL Senior Member

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    Still no RTM..Meh..
     
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  2. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    Why are people moaning about the RTM hehe :p In my opinion ist's an good build so far even my sound works correct and is that not what counts an good and stable OS ??
     
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  3. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    Yea... people love timebombed, watermarked beta OSs....
     
  4. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    Yeah you proberly right about the time bomb that's an bummer but the watermark who cares :p

    Ps for me RTM is also beta but different RTM will get CU updates
     
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  5. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    ALL Windows 10 downloads (RTM/Insider or whatsoever) are simply Betas and will be further on!

    That a release is classified as final, would be only if there isn't any further development of that specific edition.
     
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  6. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    Thank you for the clear answer ! :)
     
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  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    And to give a stage of development a name, the official release will be called "Final",

    But really, every time a "Final" major build is about to be released, MDL seems to be filled with the exact same "discussions", it's all said many times before ;)
     
  8. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    Very true I rest my case ;)
     
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  9. daveo76

    daveo76 MDL Expert

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    Has anyone had problems with using "uup-converter-wimlib-13" for this build UUP files. I get a error message "C:\Portable\uupdl\uup\16299.0\en-us\amd64\Microsoft.ModernApps.Client.cloud.esd": Error reading header: Invalid argument
    ERROR: Exiting with error code 65:
    Unexpectedly reached the end of the file."
     
  10. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    No errors here: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...uild-16299-pc-rs3_release.75204/#post-1374340
    Must be a corrupt or incomplete download.
     
  11. LostED

    LostED SVF Patch Lover

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    @daveo76

    have you checked checksums of UUP files?
     
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  12. daveo76

    daveo76 MDL Expert

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  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Redownload and try again, watch the download progress closely for any errors, when errors, re-run the same download.
     
  14. daveo76

    daveo76 MDL Expert

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    No errors from "UUPDL v0.08.30" during download. I downloaded again using "UUPDL v0.08.30" and this time "abbodi1406 uup-converter-wimlib_13" worked.
     
  15. d5aqoëp

    d5aqoëp MDL Addicted

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    Your computer had it’s first period. It is perfectly normal.
     
  16. jgdaqs

    jgdaqs MDL Novice

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    As with most other OS's, an RTM build is an agreed upon Checkpoint, for which development of current features is declared complete. Once the checkpoint release is out in the wild, it is given an RTM designation, and development continues on a new branch for the next version of the OS.

    Even going as far back as NTOS/2 (the original name of NT 3.1), Microsoft released a handful of checkpoint builds, where they encouraged developers to develop for NT on beta-quality checkpoint builds, even though several major changes occurred between each checkpoint. Re-targetting back in those days was much tougher, as developers had to wait at least a year between checkpoint releases.

    Windows 10's development cycle has been closer to the early days of NT's developer checkpoints than previous releases of Windows, as everything is forward-moving, instead of sticking around on a single checkpoint for a matter of years (or decades). The loss of Service Pack releases was a great way to force development into a quicker pace - delivering checkpoint releases far faster than previously possible.

    So, even though this build may not be the RTM, it is a part of the checkpoint releases. It will likely upgrade to the RTM properly, and then receive the next major checkpoint release with no issue.
     
  17. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    With the arrival of 10, MSFT stopped using terms like RTM, Service Pack or even Upgrade, which they now call an update.
     
  18. Nucleus

    Nucleus MDL Guru

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    It's been posted on MDL many times by many posters, that with the release of W10 MS declared the term RTM defunct, I guess this explains it though...

     
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  19. cuteee

    cuteee MDL Guru

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    RTM is a stable and popular version of windows (with many fixes) with continual updates.
     
  20. Nucleus

    Nucleus MDL Guru

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    :doh:
     
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