[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16299 (PC) RS3_Release

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Enthousiast, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. Leopeva64

    Leopeva64 MDL Expert

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    And some of the "most visible" Microsoft employees still use the term RTM:
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    That's why I think we can continue to use that term without problems.
     
  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Such mistakes caused a lot of mayhem last time, i believe, brandon leblanc used the term RTM.
     
  3. Nucleus

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  4. d5aqoëp

    d5aqoëp MDL Addicted

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    Come on MS.. Hurry up with build 16300.
     
  5. DontuZoru

    DontuZoru MDL Senior Member

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    Let them fix the stuttering in games first, then release the RTM..
     
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  6. frepsz

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    RTM means an updated version without insider restrictions, e.g. uncontrolled telemetry, nag screens etc.
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    RTM meant: Release To Manufacturer
    It's no longer used as you can see @Nucleus post.
     
  8. frepsz

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    The terminology is completely irrelevant. Call it stable release build or whatever. Point is having a version with no watermark, no time bomb, not demanding feedback every 2 minutes etc. RTM is just a term people use, because that's what we've called such a version since forever.
     
  9. brownimfc

    brownimfc MDL Senior Member

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    Why sign up to the insider program in the first place if all those things annoy you?
     
  10. dhjohns

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    RTM is just a colloquial expression.
     
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  11. GOD666

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    I do not think the OP said any of that annoyed them, but rather was outlining what most people would define as the latest current stable release (for argument's sake, RTM). I'd happily install Microsoft's canary builds if they made them available, knowing fully well that they more than likely would not work, but that does not mean I would not look forward to the next stable release. At the moment, the current stable release is Red Stone 2 and I see nothing wrong in waiting for Red Stone 3, while also happily testing all the alphas and betas in between.
     
  12. RGadelha

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    Yes, we don't eat honey we chew bees ;)
     
  13. Nucleus

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  14. sevenacids

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    Sure, but I still think that two major releases a year is too much, too fast. Strongest point is: They currently fail to deliver most of the features they annonce in time. Once a year would be more sufficient and less stressful to maintainance (IMO).
     
  15. GOD666

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    I suspect (guess) it may have to do with future marketing. -- Assuming someday in the future, Windows as a "service", actually becomes a paid subscription service (as many suspects since Microsoft is not likely to flip the bill indefinitely for free), it would make sense to keep a rolling release to encourage people to keep their paid subscription current. Microsoft figures most people would be comfortable being at least 1 - 2 version behind, as has been the history of nearly all Windows releases. With that in mind, releasing a new "version" every 6 months guarantees that after the first six months to a year, you would indeed be 1 -2 versions behind.

    I agree with you that releasing 1 new edition once every year while releasing regular updates for that edition would make more sense, but not necessarily if your goal was to market it as a subscription (knowing the consumer history surrounding adaptation of your product and wishing to maintain a continuous cash flow).
     
  16. daveo76

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    lol
     
  17. daveo76

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    This build when I upgraded to it. It deleted CCleaner of my PC. Which is strange why it did that.
     
  18. GOD666

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    It could have been Windows Defender and the reason could be that you had the unfortunate luck of having the "infected" version on your computer. Some chat on this was talked about here on MDL https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...rsions-v5-33-6162-injected-compromised.75147/ However Avast, which now owns CCleaner has reported it affects both the 32 and 64 bit (originally it was wrongfully assumed to only impact the 32-bit version, but now more is known, and it does impact both 32-bit and 64-bit). Further, the original "fix" of upgrading to a new version has proven to be ineffective at resolving the mess and now it is strongly recommended that you format your computer and start over.