[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Final Build 19041>>>19045 (PC) [20H1>>>22H2 vb_release]

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  1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  2. chlynx

    chlynx MDL Member

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    I am just an average user. For me the bugs are which render the system unusable, unwarranted cpu/disk usage spikes, or any other nasty bugs like file deletion, security, privacy issues etc.

    I hope defrag/optimize bug is not such a big issue.

    besides, this will be resolved soon in subsequent cumulative updates.

    Please, correct me if I am mistaken
     
  3. AveYo

    AveYo MDL Expert

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    If you have a SSD in your system, then it's a very big issue!
    Forgetting the state after each reboot means pointless clearing of already zeroed pages, instead of doing it very conservatively (weekly, if needed) to not drastically shorten the drive's life.
    Bug effectively turns smart SSDs into first-era, non-TRIM trash.
     
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  4. janos666

    janos666 MDL Member

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    What? I don't think re-trim degrades the NAND flash. If the controller is smart enough, it won't do anything (won't erase cells which were already erased before for whatever reason). Those LBAs you redundantly re-trim should already point to 'nothing' internally. You trim LBAs, not the flash directly.
     
  5. level143

    level143 MDL Junior Member

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    Yes, I was connected to the internet. Classic Paint works well. Didn't notice any visual difference in the IE toolbar as far as I can recollect.
     
  6. chlynx

    chlynx MDL Member

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    #1227 chlynx, Mar 22, 2020
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    I don't have large amount of data. Single partition and only about 250 gigs of data, and I don't move my data from one location to another. Do I still need to defrag my HDD. What if I disable Windows defrag until the bug is resolved?.
     
  7. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    190x does not have the Defrag bug, that's exclusive to 2004. AFAIK, the dev version (FAST ring) already has it fixed as well.
     
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  8. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    I don't mind trimming manualy
     
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  9. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    Usually, SSD brands come with an exclusive utility that can replace the Windows Trim feature.
     
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  10. bear_aussie

    bear_aussie MDL Senior Member

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    yeh with the chepest nastiest $20 ssds having at least 40tbw endurance if defrag moves evry signle file evry single day itll only last bout a year
    (soz couldnt resist) :D
     
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  11. JuliusB

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    Hello;
    To optimize SSD Launch this command prompt with administrator :
    powershell.exe -noexit Optimize-Volume -DriveLetter C -ReTrim -Verbose
     
  12. stefanl

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    #1234 stefanl, Mar 22, 2020
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  13. armond

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    :confused:
    :thinking:
    :rolleyes:
     
  14. EaglePC

    EaglePC MDL Expert

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    i also have the defrag bug too
     
  15. level143

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    I have the defrag bug too. But I am assuming this could be a reporting error in the defrag program and not necessarily the service itself. Needs to be further looked into.
     
  16. chlynx

    chlynx MDL Member

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    It's likely that the bug will be corrected in the future updates. I am just curious as to why not disable the defrag temporarily? would that be a problem?
     
  17. TairikuOkami

    TairikuOkami MDL Expert

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    I am stunned, that people still rely on unreliable Windows apps/tasks, this bug is merely a frosting on top. But I guess, that some will trust in god, I mean in MS, no matter what.
     
  18. kewkie

    kewkie MDL Member

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    Whats wrong with the defrag app when the bug is fixed? Whats the alternative?
    Or was that just the usual MS bashing against MS apps?