DISCUSSION: Windows 10 Technical Preview April Build (10051)

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by SNaRe, Apr 4, 2015.

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  1. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    Haha they are keeping turning down aero glass for different reasons It is hard for Microsoft to listen to the "Crowd" it has been and for sake I don't see that they are gonne change their attitude in the future. A lot of smooth talking about listening to the feedback of the windows insiders and maybe 10 procent of the feedback is taken seriously :eek: Grow Up Microsoft and adapt to the present time !!
     
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  2. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    Fact is, Microsoft relies a lot on those information about Hardware which they getting from those Hardware Manufacturer. Drivers are simply related to that! Apple has it easy in that regard, they just using very limited hardware and therefore having just a 'few' problems to solve compare to the whole bunch Microsoft has to solve! And for that Apple users paying an fortune for their hardware!

    To create an OS for about 98% of the available different Hardware products, needs a lot of effort and and in real, to solve all those different problems for the same output, is not just a simple and easy task! Relying on information from other developers (of hardware), not just a few, no, about near all of those, and than get all to works on the same software, is terrible difficult! And on top of all of that, Microsoft also has to listen to those who have noting in their mind than just to bother them with all those (in most cases) unfounded accusations!

    And if those 'unhappy' users didn't have anything else to complain, than the Microsoft product is to expensive in last resort! That the development of an OS cost's a fortune and need a huge amount of technical experts, not to forget time and many other fact's, is something what an normal thinking and educate human should see and realize that those cost's 'Money'!

    Ok, who isn't happy with the MS product's, should just change to Linux or even Apple! The first need's much more knowledge to start and use it while the second need a lot more money for to get both the hardware and the OS!

    The second has also more 'Advantages', not just that it cost's much more than normal PC, NO, the user also gets an kind Dictatorship, much more restriction for using, less available 3.party application, and, and, and!

    Why Apple users didn't complaining? Er....? Is it because Apple simply give an sh*t about what the user is thinking? Or Apple didn't mind to go to court with offenders? Or did the user some day's 'see's' the reality?

    Fact is that Apple Products all Made in China, using low cost manufacturing for to build the product which used only well tested (therefore 2. Generation) hardware. That the manufacturers (like Foxconn) using kind Slavery work condition and even Kid's work, is well known in the meantime as well! The cost of developing the OS for their product is very low, compare to the high cost MS has, and developing is faster as well. OK, all of that are a PLUS (???) for to buy an Apple product?!

    Back on topic: The Aero is an software which need to use some special Hardware and therefore to get it work, the developers of those hardware need to submit all required information to Microsoft, if they didn't creating those needed drivers on their own. There a lot Hardware Developers, which didn't give the required info's to Microsoft and also refusing for to create the drivers on their own! Who's fault is that, Microsoft? Nada! And such 3.party Companies are some like HP, NEC and others!

    There so many facts behind such problems, which we'll never see, neither realizing! Complaint's from Users will never work! The only choice the user has, to wait and see what finally will or even could be done!

    And just to note: I'm not a close friend of Microsoft and if I could I avoid to use their Products, as I'm doing Services for Computer and related Hard- and Software, I've no choice, I simply must use Microsoft Products and also use Linux, Unix but Apple product's!
     
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  4. Shayne

    Shayne MDL Addicted

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    So now I am a bit confused :confused:. So Microsoft writes the OS based on others hardware and that is a difficult task? I thought companies write their own drivers and are force to abide by the rules of the M$ OS of the day, hence different drivers for different OS's. For the luxury of playing by the rules I thought that they were required to pay M$ a fee to certify their drivers. I thought that M$ now requires a safe mode restart if the hardware manufacture decides they do not want to pay that fee. I guess then M$ pays the hardware manufactures a fee to store the drivers for their hardware on the manufactures site.

    Anthem is word class multimedia and the ARC software is second to none. Written for the windows XP OS by the national research council of Canada and based on USB input. Does it work in windows 8? Poor, poor M$.

    Regards
     
  5. hutclucky

    hutclucky MDL Novice

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    I have seen the Windows 10 build 10056 images leaked , China's pro and enterprise of Russia
     
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  7. ZaForD

    ZaForD MDL Expert

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    Which is why they all come back here moaning about IE and icons. :(


    On one is 'Forced' to do anything, If a hardware maker wants to have a 'Compatible with Windows X' sticker on their box the driver has to be certified by Microsoft. Which they pay for and I believe it also means those drivers are added to the Windows driver pool that's installed with Windows.

    Clear evidence of this came with Vista, where the driver design changed, mainly dew to the switch to x64.
    Most hardware makers refused to modify their XP drivers to work with Vista, instead opting to only produce Vista drivers for new products 'Forcing' their and Microsoft's customers to buy new hardware.

    And the reason that most hardware makers have lots of drivers listed for each OS on their websites is down to the lack of knowledge of most PC users. If you grab any of the x86 drivers and check the hash's you'll see most are the same. That goes for different x86 OS's and hardware products. Its the same for the x64 drivers.
     
  8. Shayne

    Shayne MDL Addicted

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    ^^^^ Agreed and it was a bit tongue and cheek, if you want the average person to use your hardware there is no force at all.

    Regards
     
  9. Chris123NT

    Chris123NT MDL Expert

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    No, if anything it was because they don't feel it fits in with the context of the UI direction in win 10.

    But either way it has nothing to do with the driver, it's perfectly capable of doing it, and I'm sure Bigmuscle will prove that.
     
  10. Yaniv

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  12. Yaniv

    Yaniv MDL Junior Member

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    Mad about what? :confused:
     
  13. AtomR

    AtomR MDL Member

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    Nothing, I was just kidding. :p
     
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  14. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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    Beats me LOL, it's just something I saw them discussing in QQ chat and what the MS guy said. :p
     
  15. l30

    l30 GFX Wizard

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    Wzor is waving a green signal for new leak :clap:
     
  16. grumpee

    grumpee MDL Member

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    I have to take a leak what flag should I wave?


    pretty sad
     
  17. Chris123NT

    Chris123NT MDL Expert

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    a yellow one.
     
  18. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    No need to use the future, I'm using aeroglass on 10051 and it works perfectly.

    Exactly like the native aeroglass works perfectly on (officially) unsupported HW like the 100$ netbooks from the latest 5/6 years.

    The truth is that the removal of AG has nothing to do with performances, they removed it for (highly debatable) aesthetic reasons, when they tough the windows users were sheep like the Apple's one. When they tough anyone will stick with whatever idiotic novelty imposed from the high level.

    They proved to be wrong, and they are stepping back. Likely they will realize that the aero thing was an idiotic move too.
     
  19. ashio83

    ashio83 MDL Novice

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    I wish people would stop bitching about aero and trash icons in these threads it's boring! If Microsoft choose not to use aero then it's up to them, no amount of complaining over here will sort that out, there is nothing "idiotic" about it. I'm sure when it's finished there will be a utility to use aero in some form or another, and if there isn't...so what! The trash icon thing is a non issue.

    Give it a rest
     
  20. SLRVision39

    SLRVision39 MDL Member

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    I second that. I think they are doing that just to have fun reading your comments :)