[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Technical Preview Build 9841

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  1. sektion31

    sektion31 MDL Novice

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    h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReFS
     
  2. MrAnalysis

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    They know 99% of what they get wont be positive. People only ever report negative stuff. The program will be setup with that in mind and you will be doing them a favour :)

    If they cares what the majority wanted things like removing the start menu could have been put to a vote on a poll on the microsoft site or something. Same could be done with other big UI changes and background changes.

    Sometimes users don't really know what they want though and can't see the future. Sometimes going against the negative feedback will give positive outcomes overall. Even if 99% of the feedback you get is negative about 1 feature that does not mean more people using the product are not happy about the feature it just means 99% of people moaning are they are likely the minority anyway.
     
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  3. ssknight7

    ssknight7 MDL Novice

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    Your way of thinking is why Windows 8 has sucked so hard for so long. Please don't do stuff ever.
     
  4. mmmirkec

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    www windowsbleu com/2014/09/windows-10-technical-preview-system.html
     
  5. MrAnalysis

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    It didn't suck though 1 feature the start menu is the main issue most have the rest of the OS most i think like. The start screen is not that bad anyone with a tablet or phone will agree here im sure. We have the best of both worlds with Windows 10 because they didn't listen. If they did listen we would have been stuck with a none touch friendly os on tablets and mobiles for Windows 8/8.1. More people have benefited from 8 and 8.1 than not ignoring bad feedback can lead to a positive outcome.
     
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  6. xomniversex

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    #486 xomniversex, Oct 1, 2014
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    Just in case this hasn't been posted yet... Download will be available "around 9AM" PDT (UTC -0700) tomorrow according to a private QA PDF distributed to Microsoft Partners

    PDF provided by Lyraull:

    Code:
    ****s mega.co.nz/#!x45nTTYa!d4h7eHGCUzlcY5v9nPUTQjRvgD5t5bWtFFKGXES95Wk
     
  7. LLStarks

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    It's still NTFS

    They need something with the ambition of WinFS, the flexibility of ext4 (native drivers please!), and the ability to handle flash-based storage on par with F2FS
     
  8. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    This is where my Metro 'Alarm' is very useful. I have already set it up with the chime ringer. Who says Metro tile is not very useful?
     
  9. ssknight7

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    The Start menu fiasco was just a symptom of a much larger issue with Windows 8. The integration of Metro and the classic desktop was immature, under-thought, and lazy.

    What sucked about Windows 8 was the desktop experience. Noone is arguing for or against the mobile niche. The legacy of Windows 8 is low rate of adoption due to a horrific desktop experience. i.e. it sucked (for desktop - wtf cares about mobile)
     
  10. WardocsRevenge

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    metro was great sadly most users where to stupid to know how to use it right and how to make it work for them
     
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  11. MrMagic

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    Right, well it's been fun, I'm off to bed, another 17 hours or something until release if that 9am PST is correct

    Don't download all the ISOs, leave one for me ;)
     
  12. sektion31

    sektion31 MDL Novice

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    #492 sektion31, Oct 1, 2014
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    What makes you say that? It doesn't even have all of NTFS features. On the other hand it has lots of new interesting abilities, like beeing defrag-less, that you demanded. Thats not something you can build on top of a existing fs.

    what do you mean by native drivers? for other platforms than windows? why would ms want to do that.

    you cant make an FS that is customized for flash to perform well on HDDs also. therefore they dont have interest in such a specific file system.
     
  13. s1ave77

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    That must be the reason i couldn't get warm with that crap, apparently :doh:.
     
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  14. xomniversex

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    So just wanted to follow up with some of these nuggets of information I gleaned from the September 2014 Partner Guidance PDF:

    • A new TechNet forum for Windows 10: answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windowstp
    • A specific hour, 9AM tomorrow, is mentioned as to when the download for Windows 10 TP will be available.
    • System requirements were listed for Windows 10: Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster
      RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB)
      Free hard disk space: 16 GB
      Graphics card: Microsoft DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM driver
     
  15. WardocsRevenge

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    not everyone is built for the future but i find metro very useful and it keeps all my applications in sections according to name such as game dev tools IT tools and music and last games all 164 from steam brought by fps adventure and so on all organized
     
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  16. LLStarks

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    Native ext4, btrfs, etc drivers for Windows. Paragon ExtFS is okay, but I need something better.
     
  17. MrAnalysis

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    This ^^ most people i know who actually tried Windows 8 found it much more easy to use over Windows 7. The big tiles and simple look really helps people less tech savy.

    It's only been the few people on forums that i see or hear moaning about windows 8. Think it was a good thing what they did with 8/8.1 glad it happened and in Windows 10 all the teething problems will be almost ironed out and people from both sides will be happy. This is progress that would not have happened if they didn't ignore feedback you would just have desktop users happy and not mobile users.

    Plus if windows 7 was so perfect and they didn't add a touch ui or anything new what would have been the point in people upgrading? Stuff actually needs to be added and changes or there is just no point in making a new windows.
     
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  18. WardocsRevenge

    WardocsRevenge MDL Expert

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    No windows 8/9 didnt make you less tech savy at all if anything it taught you somethings about windows you dont care to know before i mean i have seen some dumb s**t said before but lol that takes the cake for sure
     
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  19. sektion31

    sektion31 MDL Novice

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    first you said you want an microsoft filesystem that is on par with something like btrfs. Now you want ms to support brfs itself?

    1) its not the ms way to addopt opensource software, because they want to be in control.
    2) refs is the closest thing to btrfs (in the microsft world)
     
  20. MrAnalysis

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    People moaned about Vista also when it came out just like 8/8.1 and soon as 7 came out it was amazing (even though little changed really) When windows 10 is out (again little changed) people will love it i am sure. Amazing what a simple quality of life improvement can make in a UI.

    Most users hate change, wont think change is a good thing and will moan about it. Nothing wrong with ignoring them to make a better product imo.
     
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