[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Build 26x00 (PC) [24/25H2 Retail- GE-release]

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Apr 3, 2024.

  1. IAN MARKS

    IAN MARKS MDL Novice

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    Windows Hello Face broken post-CU in 26200 — provisioning ghost?

    Before last week’s cumulative update, Windows Hello Face worked flawlessly on my 26200 system. Since the CU, it’s broken — and I’ve traced the failure to a provisioning ghost:
    • Hello.Face.20134~~~~0.0.1.0 is marked as Installed, but DISM shows 0-byte footprint — no binaries, no payload.
    • Hello.Face.Migration capability is entirely absent — not even listed as NotPresent.
    • Shell still invokes Hello Face on wake (e.g., “move closer to the camera”), but IR sensor doesn’t activate, and Win32_BiometricDevice class is missing.
    • Device Manager shows no biometric device, and WMI confirms the class isn’t registered.
    • This is a false-positive provisioning state — shell logic is present, but the backend is missing.
    • ISO/FOD audit confirms no viable source for the full Hello.Face stack in 26200.
    This was working perfectly before the CU. Now it’s a stub install with no functional support.

    Seeking confirmation from @Enthousiast or @abbodi1406 — is this a known regression or intentional deprecation?
     
  2. boe323

    boe323 MDL Expert

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    the updated taskmanager uses up 10% cpu, so you cant monitor idle speeds anymore
     
  3. GeRmAnOs

    GeRmAnOs MDL Junior Member

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    #5063 GeRmAnOs, Oct 25, 2025
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    Look how many instances u have running, got bug with taskmanager hungs in backgrund and old instances being not closed at close X(only manual kill works) Can open/close taskmgr 100 times and i will have 100 processes hung , checked again and they not closing with delay when i still open/close :mad: Every new instance eat up more ram, so i think it will crash on low RAM scenario setups.
     
  4. TairikuOkami

    TairikuOkami MDL Expert

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    You are right, it went from 0% to 3-5% and now to 10%. Despicable. I use solely System Informer now.
     

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  5. boe323

    boe323 MDL Expert

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    I'm using resource monitor now, hopefully the task manager will get fixed at some point
     
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    TairikuOkami MDL Expert

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  8. Suzerain

    Suzerain MDL Member

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    I'm trying to update my Win 11 PC but the update (KB5067036) keeps failing with "Install Error: 0x80070302)." I've tried several times as well as using WUMT (x64) - both fail.

    Help?!
     
  9. TairikuOkami

    TairikuOkami MDL Expert

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    NextDNS
     
  10. GeRmAnOs

    GeRmAnOs MDL Junior Member

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    #5071 GeRmAnOs, Oct 25, 2025
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    Thanks for info, for now i skip task manager and use system informer portable. Dont think power plan messing with task manager as i have custom one for 9800x3d, got disabled via vivetool WebView2 spawning from SearchHost and disable the "resume" process but after reverting still same bug appears.
     

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  11. steven4554

    steven4554 MDL Expert

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    #5072 steven4554, Oct 25, 2025
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    @Suzerain KB5067036 is meant for Insider builds 26120 and 26220 in both Beta and Dev Channels. Not recommended to install it on a retail build.
     
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  13. maddogster

    maddogster MDL Senior Member

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    lol probably in future antiAI tools to disable/adjust just like telemetry, privacy, bloat, unnecessary apps etc
     
  14. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    I have no idea
     
  15. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream
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    Moved the posts. Don't install Beta or Dev updates on Retail channel, it breaks things and does often not even work (and requires a full build-upgrade to switch). Strictly install only updates for 25H2 Retail or RP.
     
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  16. IAN MARKS

    IAN MARKS MDL Novice

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    #5078 IAN MARKS, Oct 26, 2025
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    Thanks for the reply @abbodi1406 — appreciate the honesty.

    I’ve run a full audit across build 26200 post-CU and wanted to surface the specifics in case they help others triangulate:
    • Hello.Face.20134~~~~0.0.1.0 shows as Installed via Get-WindowsCapability, but DISM reports a 0-byte footprint — no payload, no binaries.
    • Hello.Face.Migration is completely absent — not listed as Present or NotPresent.
    • Shell logic still triggers (e.g., “move closer to the camera”), but the IR sensor doesn’t activate, and Win32_BiometricDevice class is missing.
    • Device Manager shows no biometric device, and WMI confirms the class isn’t registered.
    • FOD ISO audit (latest known 26200) reveals no viable source for the full Hello.Face stack.
    Unless there’s a hidden migration path or undocumented capability shift, this looks like a false-positive provisioning ghost — shell logic present, backend missing.

    If you or Enthousiast spot any ISO or CU delta that restores full biometric provisioning, I’d be grateful for the heads-up. For now, I’ll treat this as a regression unless proven otherwise.

    PS: Just a heads-up @Enthousiast or @abbodi1406: KB5055523 caused this same biometric provisioning ghost in earlier builds too. It’s now fully breaking Hello.Face in 26200. If you’re in touch with anyone at Microsoft or tracking internal deltas, this might be worth flagging.
     
  17. JWilly

    JWilly MDL Junior Member

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    Updated to 26120.6928 classed as a "quality" update lol. Still had no dark mode improvements so enabled it with vivetool. Also get the 10% task manager bug.
     
  18. Thonk

    Thonk MDL Novice

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    im trying to integrate the following updates into my image but the script keeps crashing and the content of the updates folder changes (using the latest W10MUI / W10UI) imgur /a/5BfuCPj
    this is before I ran the W10MUI script imgur /a/A8iaLqh

    the base image used is 26100.1 and I havent had such issues before (been doing this for months) I can try running the script from CMD to see where it crashes

    Didnt reach the post limit for links yet and wasnt sure how to share images otherwise