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Do you believe Microsoft is going to rebrand Windows 10 to something else?

Poll closed May 30, 2021.
  1. Yes, "Windows 10" is already dated and getting long in the tooth.

    34.5%
  2. No chance, they are going to cling to the "Windows 10" brand for as long as they can.

    39.1%
  3. Meh... Don't care.

    26.4%
  1. bjf2000

    bjf2000 MDL Expert

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    Misleading at best. We'll hit a brick wall later this year unless this community comes up with a TPM 2.0 workaround or MS changes their mind (for Insiders):

    "Once Windows 11 is generally available, these PCs will be opted out of flighting and will not be able to receive future Windows 11 Insider Preview builds. These PCs must clean install back to Windows 10 with the media (ISOs) that we provide and can then join the Release Preview Channel to preview Windows 10 updates."
     
  2. Coentje44

    Coentje44 MDL Member

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    I dont think TPM 2.0 will be required.
    It would prevent hundres of millions or even billions of devices from being able to use Windows 11.
     
  3. Rickkins

    Rickkins MDL Senior Member

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    There's a joke in there somewhere, but I'm just up from my nap...:D
     
  4. vipanonymous

    vipanonymous MDL Senior Member

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    Turns out my PC has TPM (I was worried.... it's new - 1 year) it was desguised under "Intel Platform Trust Technology" (PTT).


    Now i'm elegile for the update.
     
  5. EaglePC

    EaglePC MDL Expert

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    #1205 EaglePC, Jun 24, 2021
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    very strange i download microsofts WindowsPCHealthCheck at 1st told me my pc not compatible with 11 then went into bios and changed something and vanilla reran and say hurry you pc meets all the requirements for 11 this is on a asus strix x299 e gaming mb

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  6. maddogster

    maddogster MDL Senior Member

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    just like osx on older macbooks many things can be bypassed by software/bios/scripts :) over time users decide if hardware is good enough to run or change to another OS as we have many choices; anyone in IT since 70's 80's no how many things are possible just like the seasoned here on MDL so tpm or any other requirements should never scare off anyone as there are many skilled here on this forum and elsewhere :)
     
  7. dzem

    dzem MDL Senior Member

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    If trick with install wim from 11 to 10 installation files works in this preview build, it would work i guess with other build too
     
  8. Digitalfox

    Digitalfox MDL Member

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    Just checked all my PC's, all of them have TPM 2.0.

    My main desktop, was just disabled at UEFI (ASUS when releases a new uefi update, disables TPM, silly them)...
     
  9. RobrPatty

    RobrPatty MDL Expert

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    Just apply the install.wim to your C: drive problem solved.
     
  10. Digitalfox

    Digitalfox MDL Member

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    I have 2016 intel machines with TPM 2.0, it's not something released this year.
     
  11. darkodar

    darkodar MDL Addicted

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    My Asus K52JT from 2010 not have TPM 1.2 od TPM 2.0
     
  12. Flax4

    Flax4 MDL Senior Member

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    #1214 Flax4, Jun 24, 2021
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    Interesting, my i7 8700k supports "intel PTT", I guess however it's my motherboard screwing me over (Asus Z390-A). Doesn't seem to be a option for it. Guess I can get a module though.

    Edit: Scratch that. I'm an idiot and I do have PTT.
     
  13. bjf2000

    bjf2000 MDL Expert

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    You got lucky if a post above is correct:
    -Microsoft has required OEMs to use TPM 2.0 since July 28, 2016

    There's a rather large base of machines out there more than 5 years old but still plenty capable of running W11 (more or less a reskinned W10) but for this one artificial requirement.
     
  14. agent268

    agent268 MDL Junior Member

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    Understood. Those users can continue to use Windows 10 which will be supported until October 14, 2025 and upgrade to a new device when the time is right for them.
    I understand your point, but the reality is that requirements change as technology advances. For people in this boat, they can continue to use Windows 10 for quite a while and upgrade at a time that works best for their situation. Plus, not being able to use Windows 11 shouldn't prevent people from being able to compute using Windows 10. Like previous major Windows releases, hardware and app developers will not abandon support of the prior Windows version right away.

    I get it, everyone wants the latest version of Windows. The reality is that if you cannot use or afford modern hardware then that has consequences. One of them is not being able to use the latest software others may be not being able to use specific features/functionality or as drastic as exposing yourself to security vulnerabilities. Even so, not having access to Windows 11 doesn't mean you're out of luck for using Windows nor will software/hardware developers just straight up drop Windows 10 support the day Windows 11 hits.
     
  15. Mellipes

    Mellipes MDL Senior Member

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    As a novice, I am sure I am not the only one to ask this. Run the Windows health check, told PC not compatable with windows 11. However laptop is only 10 months old, and a look at the BIOS sees I seem to have all the requirements, TPM and secure boot. so logically I guess its one of those settings I have to change. Dont want to radonmly start changing settings if I can help it.

    So is there a list of some kind of settings I need to change , and to what, so I can upgrade.
     
  16. OSMAN

    OSMAN MDL Addicted

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    ran the test on my surface pro 3 and it says it wont run
     
  17. superfun2k21

    superfun2k21 MDL Novice

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    I remember, TPM should be required back when w10 was released and it isn't until now
     
  18. JumpyJim

    JumpyJim MDL Junior Member

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    Dinosaur 1950x 16 core / 32 thread TR, 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD boot drive, 20 TB misc HDD drives, GTX 2070 Super, TPM 2.0 enabled - not Windows 11 compliant.