[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 (Codename "Sun Valley")

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by PolidelticusFire, May 23, 2021.

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Do you believe Microsoft is going to rebrand Windows 10 to something else?

Poll closed May 30, 2021.
  1. Yes, "Windows 10" is already dated and getting long in the tooth.

    34.5%
  2. No chance, they are going to cling to the "Windows 10" brand for as long as they can.

    39.1%
  3. Meh... Don't care.

    26.4%
  1. Digitalfox

    Digitalfox MDL Member

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    I have 2016 intel machines with TPM 2.0, it's not something released this year.
     
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    darkodar MDL Addicted

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    My Asus K52JT from 2010 not have TPM 1.2 od TPM 2.0
     
  3. iFlaX

    iFlaX MDL Senior Member

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    #1223 iFlaX, Jun 24, 2021
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    Interesting, my i7 8700k supports "intel PTT", I guess however it's my motherboard screwing me over (Asus Z390-A). Doesn't seem to be a option for it. Guess I can get a module though.

    Edit: Scratch that. I'm an idiot and I do have PTT.
     
  4. bjf2000

    bjf2000 MDL Expert

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    You got lucky if a post above is correct:
    -Microsoft has required OEMs to use TPM 2.0 since July 28, 2016

    There's a rather large base of machines out there more than 5 years old but still plenty capable of running W11 (more or less a reskinned W10) but for this one artificial requirement.
     
  5. agent268

    agent268 MDL Junior Member

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    Understood. Those users can continue to use Windows 10 which will be supported until October 14, 2025 and upgrade to a new device when the time is right for them.
    I understand your point, but the reality is that requirements change as technology advances. For people in this boat, they can continue to use Windows 10 for quite a while and upgrade at a time that works best for their situation. Plus, not being able to use Windows 11 shouldn't prevent people from being able to compute using Windows 10. Like previous major Windows releases, hardware and app developers will not abandon support of the prior Windows version right away.

    I get it, everyone wants the latest version of Windows. The reality is that if you cannot use or afford modern hardware then that has consequences. One of them is not being able to use the latest software others may be not being able to use specific features/functionality or as drastic as exposing yourself to security vulnerabilities. Even so, not having access to Windows 11 doesn't mean you're out of luck for using Windows nor will software/hardware developers just straight up drop Windows 10 support the day Windows 11 hits.
     
  6. Mellipes

    Mellipes MDL Novice

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    As a novice, I am sure I am not the only one to ask this. Run the Windows health check, told PC not compatable with windows 11. However laptop is only 10 months old, and a look at the BIOS sees I seem to have all the requirements, TPM and secure boot. so logically I guess its one of those settings I have to change. Dont want to radonmly start changing settings if I can help it.

    So is there a list of some kind of settings I need to change , and to what, so I can upgrade.
     
  7. OSMAN

    OSMAN MDL Senior Member

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    ran the test on my surface pro 3 and it says it wont run
     
  8. superfun2k21

    superfun2k21 MDL Novice

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    I remember, TPM should be required back when w10 was released and it isn't until now
     
  9. JumpyJim

    JumpyJim MDL Junior Member

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    Dinosaur 1950x 16 core / 32 thread TR, 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD boot drive, 20 TB misc HDD drives, GTX 2070 Super, TPM 2.0 enabled - not Windows 11 compliant.
     
  10. darren2010

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    how accurate is that test my dell all in one desktop pc has TPM 2.0 but it saids it cant run windows 11 and my pc is 3 years old
     
  11. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Senior Member

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    Funny: My Insider settings say My PC doesn't meet minimum requirements...

    However, Microsoft's PC Health Check tool says it does.

    Which one do I trust?
     
  12. Coentje44

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    @Mellipes
    The PC must support TPM 2.0

    The PC must support Secure Boot
    Afterwards just run the windowspchealthcheck tool, to see if you're eligible for Windows 11
     
  15. Dante38490

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    oh thx, i see just here me too
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  16. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    You are missing the point. Many here are part of the Insider Program & need to test Win 11 BUT maybe can't because of new min specs. So we have to drop out of the Insider Program ? Many have been part of the Program for many years.
     
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    i dont really like windows 11
     
  18. Mellipes

    Mellipes MDL Novice

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    I see there are two TPM levels, I will check which I have. One question, when you say MUST SUPPORT, I assume they must be enabled in some form.
     
  19. EeroS

    EeroS MDL Senior Member

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    Well, @case-sensitive also joked about Computer orakels:roll1:

    Patience is a virtue, better wait until Insider builds drop.
     
  20. jmtella

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    HyperV virtual machines do not have a TPM and Windows 11 installs without problems.

    Does this mean that a physical machine that does not have a TPM could be installed?
    Typically server motherboards do not have TPM