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Do you believe Microsoft is going to rebrand Windows 10 to something else?

Poll closed May 30, 2021.
  1. Yes, "Windows 10" is already dated and getting long in the tooth.

    34.5%
  2. No chance, they are going to cling to the "Windows 10" brand for as long as they can.

    39.1%
  3. Meh... Don't care.

    26.4%
  1. windows builder

    windows builder MDL Guru

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    no
     
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  2. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    Microsoft Time is Always Redmond Time.
     
  3. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    Can you explain how this is going to work ? I have been on the Dev_Channel for a long time BUT my PC does not meet min Win 11 specs. I will Download with WU. So how does WU know to Download to me even though my PC doesn't meet min specs ?
     
  4. windows builder

    windows builder MDL Guru

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    Switching to the Dev channel, the insider will see a warning that the computer does not meet the requirements.
     
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  5. Konqi the Konqueror

    Konqi the Konqueror MDL Junior Member

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    "albacore78" frequently posts fake stuff, like screenshots of fake builds for instance, even worse, they stole a reputable person's name, presumably to make themselves seem more reputable.
     
  6. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    I did not switch to Dev_Channel. I am already on it.
     
  7. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Guru

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    Thanks, now it is clear - there is always a Redmond time when some fictional person is familiar with someone who works for Microsoft.
    Looks like it's the PDT (Pacific Daylight Time), ie UTC/GMT -7 hours- Isn't it?
     
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  8. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    Where do you think Microsoft is located ?
     
  9. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Guru

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    Sorry, I really didn't know that albacore78 = Microsoft
     
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  10. donmiller

    donmiller MDL Addicted

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    There are a lot of back-room ramifications to the announcement of Windows 11. Firstly, the socalled insider-preview Monday-release will be just that: An insider-preview. This version may be very different from the formal release in the fall. The formal release may have strict requirements or the requirements may be relaxed by then.

    No matter when or where you get Windows 11, if there are strict requirements, then there will be workarounds (i.e. fixes, patches, etc). There are a lot of businesses that are not going to be bullied into replacing their PC inventories with massive numbers of 8th gen+ PCs. I suspect that the vast Windows market is comprised of mostly PCs that are 7th gen or below rather than 8th gen or above. If this is the case, then is MSFT planning on having a small Windows 11 club? If people don't swallow the bait and go buy new Windows 11 PCs, then MSFT won't make very much money off of Windows 11 and they may be forced to adopt a different business model that focuses on improving Windows 10 rather than on trying to push Windows 11 on us.

    The TPM and Secure Boot requirements may be a statement by MSFT that they are tired of devoting their resources to Windows security fixes. They may want to push this responsibility onto hardware manufacturers. We've seen 1081 fixes to 19041, including several enablement packages (EPs) over the last year or so. Many of those fixes are security related. Think of the resources MSFT might save by trying to back out of ensuring Windows security.

    I think there's a lot of things going on here that are not obvious and we are just going to have to "wait and see" where this goes.
     
  11. MrG

    MrG MDL Expert

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    So am I on my "MS Test" partition.
    But on my "Pro 1" partition I have Hyper-V w/ 21996.1 installed, this AM I thought I'd check-out the Insider offering in it & got this (attached).
    After following up (get started button) I was offered the (Win10) Release Preview Channel which I declined naturally.

    W11 Hyper-V_ 4cInsiderB.jpg
     
  12. Snoop05

    Snoop05 MDL Junior Member

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    You mean those businesses that are still on 7 or 8.1?
     
  13. mrbbq

    mrbbq MDL Senior Member

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    Be aware too that they've said if an install goes badly, you won't be able to sign up for 11 builds from that machine again. (I think this was in the "preparing for 11" article.)
     
  14. maddogster

    maddogster MDL Member

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    any business still on 7 or 8.1 is a complete failure business that is asking for ransomware/malware and the like :) just like any business or gov still on xp complete incompetence :eek::)
     
  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  16. donmiller

    donmiller MDL Addicted

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    No, I mean those businesses running Windows 10 on 7th gen (or lower) CPUs that don't meet the hardware requirements for Windows 11. I don't think that these businesses are going to be bullied into replacing there PCs with new 8th gen (or above) CPU computers just to run Windows 11. That might be an enormous investment.
     
  17. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Addicted

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    Windows would have to offer one hell of a carrot to make that jump worth it in the business world.

    The only performance changes I have seen mentioned have to do with support for big/little CPUs and direct storage. Seems to me gamers might be interested in those changes but for business, I don't see why anyone would care.