Is it worth upgrading from W10 LTSC 2021 to W11 LTSC 2024? I've been constantly reading news about all the OS optimizations for Ryzen CPUs added in the latest Windows versions. I know W11 UI is atrocious, but it should be manageable with StartAllBack I guess. Another thing that isn't clear to me is if the KMS_VL_ALL_AIO tool by @abbodi1406 still makes sense in 2024 or if everyone moved to use Massgrave instead.
Considering it is the tool supported on MDL and many don't want a hwid on msft servers, it still makes sense.
So W11 LTSC 2024 + ReviOS Playbook + KMS_VL_ALL_AIO is everything I need or there's something else I should do on a clean install? If I go with the English version of Windows IoT Enterprise, will I be able to download more language packs later on if I need them? For some reasons I read people suggesting to always go with the language-specific Enterprsie and then switch to IoT.
I would not touch that but it advises you need to do a clean install. You can always add languages but atm it causes problems with updating specially when a fod is enabled. Just create the IoT Enterprise 2024 at forehand (use uup>iso "create_virtual_editions.cmd" with the Enterprise 2024 LTSC ISO of your language, or install Enterprise 2024 LTSC in you desired language and switch to IoT Enterprise 2024 LTSC afterwards (https://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/1853152)
Where can i get the en-us_windows_11_iot_enterprise_ltsc_2024_x64_dvd_f6b14814.iso? This is the oct 2024 released one? I only found this one but I am not sure if its the same 26100.1.240331-1435.ge_release_CLIENT_ENTERPRISES_OEM_x64FRE_en-us
Why? Is there anything wrong with it? Actually, you don't need to use the switch method since now there are official IoT Enterprise images in all languages.
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Recent windows versions have components integrated too deeply into core system files/features so one can never be sure if removing/tweaking something won't break something else in future & which might be very difficult to troubleshoot because nobody remembers what they tweaked on their windows pc months ago via such tools/utilities. Better to just tweak only that setting/feature which is causing you some issue so that you remember it if in future you face some other issue.
Please if I may ask, which one is the original official LTSC IoT Enterprise that has support till 2035? Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2 OEM (en-US only) 26100.1742 OEM ISOs en-US only (September 27. 2024) Official 26100.1742 (IoT) Enterprise LTSC 2024 MVS Direct ISOs (Oct. 1. 2024) Thanks
IoT Enterprise 2024 LTSC will get the 5 + 5 years support. Enterprise 2024 LTSC just the 5 years. OEM (26100.1) officially is not available to the public but is the same without any LCU integrated.
Sorry, just checked again and it's the non-IoT version. Anyway, from what I get, nobody trusts what the ReviOS/AtlasOS playbooks are doing despite being open-source.
It's not the trust about the tool, it is what chopping and overtweaking does to the installs and the future problems they ignore. And there is just the en-US IoT Enterprise ISO, arm64/x64, not in all languages:
Then disable it? Code: Dism /Online /Disable-Feature /FeatureName:Recall /Quiet /NoRestart Dism /Online /Get-Featureinfo /Featurename:Recall Besides it is most likely possible to block it in the firewall or DNS, just like any other Windows "feature".