[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Enterprise/IoT Enterprise (N) LTSC 2024 (24H2 / 26100.x)

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Apr 26, 2024.

  1. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Guru

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    I believe Hardware Unboxed, it's as much reliable as Gamers Nexus

    Ltt was always about fun content, nothing more
     
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  2. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Guru

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    it is completely wrong to do any testing on "debloated 22h2" because no one should be f**king with it in the first place
    all the tests are for consumers, and it's been proven that the Zen4 and Zen5 CPUs got an insane FPS boost in games on 24H2 RP build

    your arguments about chrome, boot, resources and stuff are useless. it was only about FPS on Zen4 and Zen5 CPUs, even AMD says that only 24H2 supports the latest branch prediction improvements
     
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  3. forart

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    Almost all those customs are opensource and Playbook-based now, so no "hidden package back in return"...
     
  4. Jingzin

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    well once again 24h2 boots slower than 22h2. Chrome start time is also slower in 24h2 as to gaming well i only believe my own tests and games run better on 22h2. also i have compared two oses 22h2 vs 24h2 both debloated.
    the only improvement in 24h2 i have noticed was when i start playing videos on 22h2 takes milisecond and 24h2 starts instantly.

    not sure if you realised yet but its always the same whenever new os ios or android is released youtube warriors always claim new one is 10% better. see older videos about back then new 23h2 vs 22h2 and 10 vs 11 etc its always improvement 10 %.

    so you go for the 10% and i will just skip 24h2
     
  5. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Guru

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    once again who cares? the video was about FPS boost with Zen4 and Zen5 CPUs, stop this bs
     
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  6. Jingzin

    Jingzin MDL Addicted

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    and im just sayin you should do the test yourself instad beliving youtube
     
  7. Paul Mercer

    Paul Mercer MDL Guru

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    yeah, I should waste thousands of dollars testing 40 games on 10 Zen4 / Zen5 CPUs, or even add those defective 13 and 14 gen intel CPUs
    excellent logic

    relax, it's ONLY about the latest AMD CPUs and FPS in games, nobody said anything about your chrome, boot time and bloat in that video
     
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  8. AndyMutz

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    channels like Hardware Unboxed or Gamers Nexus are not "youtube".
    they are highly respected guys who know what they are doing and are presenting their findings in a professional manner.
    most people do not have the time or the amount of various hardware parts to do proper comparison tests, so channels like that are a godsend.

    someday I will update my LTSC 2021 installation to LTSC 2024, so I am very interested in all the verious comparisons between the newest and the older OS builds.

    -andy-
     
  9. Jingzin

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    That's why when someone said 24h2 has higher gaming performance on Zen cpus vs earlier windows versions I did some tests myself on my own pcs and I didn't see any improvement over 22h2.
    22h2 actually performed much better.
    But anyone is free to believe in God, Facebook YouTube whatever they like or just compare oses and do tests on your own pc by yourself.
     
  10. ЯƎHTͶAꟼ

    ЯƎHTͶAꟼ MDL Senior Member

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    Wow thats slim, that is normal 22/2 enterprise? What exactly removed from? Having a Preset.xml? I also making some experiments at the moment.
    Got several "GamerOS" Versions since from Win7, but those based on Pro, so will take a look and customizing these to my own needs etc.
    (Basically I install those in VM, get an extract of setup build, like installed/removed packages, changed settings, and can use that as preset for analyses and customizing.)

    Just yesterday I was looking into driver packages, ended up 90+ GB Windows folder haha, will be a little work till all is fine as I wish.
    Its a bit a special case because future gaming I plan in VM, and family using ancient laptops, I need to fit the system to.

    Which one you mean? The "superbar"? As far yet I can remove everything as I want same as before.. idk mainly I'm using NTLite.

    For me personal isn't a thing about any 10% boost in FPS, Boot, whatever minor... main point is: I do care much more about having more control about the system.
    I hate it when any random s**t runs in the background, what don't need to and just do in favor of Microsoft, its more a principal thing than any performance.
    A lot of stuff in the OS I never need and having it build-in means security and privacy lacks, I want to get rid of that all as best as possible.

    That is why the new IoT LTSC is a good base in my opinion for any further work with several other tools, to build a usable basic system core how it supposed to be.

    No reason to fight guys, everyone what they want for whatever reason they want. Its good weather, enjoy good days! :) :sporty75:
     
  11. Jingzin

    Jingzin MDL Addicted

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    It's 11 pro 22h2 22621.2283 last ver before Microsoft added backup app to start menu

    This 22h2 I did mainly manually i mean to remove packages and tweak windows used several scripts too
    Darkdinosaur script modified to my liking then cbsenum dism dism++ ps and tweaks in regedit. I will actually post in 11 tweaks few scripts maybe someone will find them useful like the one to remove defender just regedit tweaks so 100 percent safe, They work against any windows.
    As to quick access I'm talking about the one in the bottom right corner of the task bar when you press volume button you can rearrange items but you can't remove them in 24h2.

    Said it in the past many times it's not just about removing packages or doing random regedit tweaks but do it so there's no sfc dims event viewer errors and no interrupts in task manager.
    And when you leave mouse for a min all services in task manager should use 0% cpu.
     
  12. Enthousiast

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  14. Rickkins

    Rickkins MDL Senior Member

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    So, I'm looking to install 11 ltsc, hoping to do so as an upgrade from 10 ltsc. Possible..??
    I have grabbed "26100.1.240331-1435.ge_release_CLIENT_ENTERPRISES_OEM_x64FRE_en-us" is that the one...??

    Also, is "KMS_VL_ALL - Smart Activation Script" still the way to go..??

    Thanks.
     
  15. pm67310

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    To activate use kms_vl_all or massgrave
     
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  16. Rickkins

    Rickkins MDL Senior Member

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    Is one better than the other..?? I have used kms_vl_all before albeit with 10 but it worked flawlessly...

    Thanks.
     
  17. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    KMS_VL_ALL = KMS only, MAS has HWID, online KMS and KMS38, not to be discussed here in detail.
     
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  18. Rickkins

    Rickkins MDL Senior Member

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    Uh, ok. Ooops.