[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Enterprise/IoT Enterprise (N) LTSC 2024 (24H2 / 26100.x)

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Apr 26, 2024.

  1. EaglePC

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    26100 is a disaster doubt it be released public September, October
     
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    #1462 ExiledRose6084, Aug 26, 2024
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    I highly agree with you I stopped using 24h2 because it literally overheated my laptop & my laptop shut itself down because of it & every new update I try out/reinstall 24h2 to see if somehow temps are fixed & nope they are constantly close to critical temps.

    This does not happen at all on previous versions of windows 11 & especially windows 10.

    So eh 24h2 is just bad (well on my end anyway) & personally sticking with any version of windows below 24h2 going forward.
     
  3. Paul Mercer

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  4. ЯƎHTͶAꟼ

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    Yea, no any problems so far on my side here.
    Using pretty old AMD-system with even older GPU.

    Although to mention I'm using a customized version, I removed every build-in Browser (IE, EgdeLegacy, EdgeChromium), the whole Defender, everything that has to do TMP, Windows Update and a lot other telemetry/privacy things.
    Not really playing latest games (performance consuming) with it, and not tested that much yet, but everything is smooth and cooled as before.. not met any issues yet, just much lesser pre-installed bloard-ware I had to remove with my tool.

    To be fair, I would give so much about opinions of any YouTube-influencer, they over-hyping/over-dramatizing things continuously.
    Even LinusTechTips guy is not that everything-known genius as people try to portraying him.. the boost is probably few more FPS because lesser background s**t runs same time as in previous builds.

    I guess they not have full hardware support/fixed bugs yet included, I mean that thing is not even officially released, if any problems, I would back to previous and wait few months till they release + fix the biggest issues. :)
     
  5. Paul Mercer

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    I believe Hardware Unboxed, it's as much reliable as Gamers Nexus

    Ltt was always about fun content, nothing more
     
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  6. Paul Mercer

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    it is completely wrong to do any testing on "debloated 22h2" because no one should be f**king with it in the first place
    all the tests are for consumers, and it's been proven that the Zen4 and Zen5 CPUs got an insane FPS boost in games on 24H2 RP build

    your arguments about chrome, boot, resources and stuff are useless. it was only about FPS on Zen4 and Zen5 CPUs, even AMD says that only 24H2 supports the latest branch prediction improvements
     
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  7. forart

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    Almost all those customs are opensource and Playbook-based now, so no "hidden package back in return"...
     
  8. Jingzin

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    well once again 24h2 boots slower than 22h2. Chrome start time is also slower in 24h2 as to gaming well i only believe my own tests and games run better on 22h2. also i have compared two oses 22h2 vs 24h2 both debloated.
    the only improvement in 24h2 i have noticed was when i start playing videos on 22h2 takes milisecond and 24h2 starts instantly.

    not sure if you realised yet but its always the same whenever new os ios or android is released youtube warriors always claim new one is 10% better. see older videos about back then new 23h2 vs 22h2 and 10 vs 11 etc its always improvement 10 %.

    so you go for the 10% and i will just skip 24h2
     
  9. Paul Mercer

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    once again who cares? the video was about FPS boost with Zen4 and Zen5 CPUs, stop this bs
     
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  10. Jingzin

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    and im just sayin you should do the test yourself instad beliving youtube
     
  11. Paul Mercer

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    yeah, I should waste thousands of dollars testing 40 games on 10 Zen4 / Zen5 CPUs, or even add those defective 13 and 14 gen intel CPUs
    excellent logic

    relax, it's ONLY about the latest AMD CPUs and FPS in games, nobody said anything about your chrome, boot time and bloat in that video
     
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  12. AndyMutz

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    channels like Hardware Unboxed or Gamers Nexus are not "youtube".
    they are highly respected guys who know what they are doing and are presenting their findings in a professional manner.
    most people do not have the time or the amount of various hardware parts to do proper comparison tests, so channels like that are a godsend.

    someday I will update my LTSC 2021 installation to LTSC 2024, so I am very interested in all the verious comparisons between the newest and the older OS builds.

    -andy-
     
  13. Jingzin

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    That's why when someone said 24h2 has higher gaming performance on Zen cpus vs earlier windows versions I did some tests myself on my own pcs and I didn't see any improvement over 22h2.
    22h2 actually performed much better.
    But anyone is free to believe in God, Facebook YouTube whatever they like or just compare oses and do tests on your own pc by yourself.
     
  14. ЯƎHTͶAꟼ

    ЯƎHTͶAꟼ MDL Senior Member

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    Wow thats slim, that is normal 22/2 enterprise? What exactly removed from? Having a Preset.xml? I also making some experiments at the moment.
    Got several "GamerOS" Versions since from Win7, but those based on Pro, so will take a look and customizing these to my own needs etc.
    (Basically I install those in VM, get an extract of setup build, like installed/removed packages, changed settings, and can use that as preset for analyses and customizing.)

    Just yesterday I was looking into driver packages, ended up 90+ GB Windows folder haha, will be a little work till all is fine as I wish.
    Its a bit a special case because future gaming I plan in VM, and family using ancient laptops, I need to fit the system to.

    Which one you mean? The "superbar"? As far yet I can remove everything as I want same as before.. idk mainly I'm using NTLite.

    For me personal isn't a thing about any 10% boost in FPS, Boot, whatever minor... main point is: I do care much more about having more control about the system.
    I hate it when any random s**t runs in the background, what don't need to and just do in favor of Microsoft, its more a principal thing than any performance.
    A lot of stuff in the OS I never need and having it build-in means security and privacy lacks, I want to get rid of that all as best as possible.

    That is why the new IoT LTSC is a good base in my opinion for any further work with several other tools, to build a usable basic system core how it supposed to be.

    No reason to fight guys, everyone what they want for whatever reason they want. Its good weather, enjoy good days! :) :sporty75:
     
  15. Jingzin

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    It's 11 pro 22h2 22621.2283 last ver before Microsoft added backup app to start menu

    This 22h2 I did mainly manually i mean to remove packages and tweak windows used several scripts too
    Darkdinosaur script modified to my liking then cbsenum dism dism++ ps and tweaks in regedit. I will actually post in 11 tweaks few scripts maybe someone will find them useful like the one to remove defender just regedit tweaks so 100 percent safe, They work against any windows.
    As to quick access I'm talking about the one in the bottom right corner of the task bar when you press volume button you can rearrange items but you can't remove them in 24h2.

    Said it in the past many times it's not just about removing packages or doing random regedit tweaks but do it so there's no sfc dims event viewer errors and no interrupts in task manager.
    And when you leave mouse for a min all services in task manager should use 0% cpu.
     
  16. Enthousiast

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