[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Enterprise Multi-Session (ServerRdsh SKU)

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Myrrh, Jun 17, 2022.

  1. hoak

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    And you, feel free, to continue with the petty insults, trolling, excuses and use of non-sequitur and informal fallacy to make excuses for sloppy work.

    Your don't have to worry about "spooning" anyone, you're too obtuse and lazy to even get as far as a clear recitation of fact.
     
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  3. acer-5100

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    Frankly I didn't test it, I don't use personally Win11 too much I obviously prefer to use Server 11 when I have to deal with 11 things.

    This thread is more dedicated to people scared by the word "sever", as an alternative to long MSMG sessions.

    On win 11 I gave up trying to eradicate the defender cancer. I just disable it using winaerotweaker which (as usual) works were well using a single click.

    Whatever I think that the defender return is connected to the packages structure rather than the kernel policies, so I'm afraid that RDSH will behave more like W11 rather than like Server 11, even if technically is a server.
     
  4. xinso

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    Acer-5100, the vNext Client and Server, except TBD Client LTSC, it uses SecHealthUI App. e.g.
    Code:
    Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.25951.1000.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
     
  5. joliebr

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    #1: Go to the uupdump website and create the download script for W11 Professional, no additional images, no updates.

    #2: Download the script and edit convertconfig.ini [Store_Apps] SkipApps = 1

    #3: Create the image (you can skip ISO creation), deploy the image with dism/imagex or use winntsetup.exe (recommended for beginners) in a vhdx format.

    #4: While the vhdx is still mounted, change the edition to ServerRDSH using 'dism /set-edition'.

    #5: Unmount the vhdx and boot it in Hyper-V. You'll encounter the old-school OOBE. Set keyboard/location preferences, and the system will reboot, going straight to the desktop (user administrator, no password).

    Afterward, create a new user with admin rights using 'lusrmgr.msc', set a password for the administrator, and possibly disable the administrator user after logging in with the new user.

    No appx will be downloaded! Your Win 11 will be clean. To switch the edition back to Pro (or Enterprise), use 'slmgr /ipk <serial-of-the-SKU-you-need>'.

    Depending on your needs, you can keep it as a Hyper-V machine or add it to your bootloader for native boot.

    Note: If you plan to boot the vhdx natively, set 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\FsDepends\Parameters\VirtualDiskExpandOnMount' to 4 before the first boot to prevent the vhdx from expanding to its maximum size.
     
  6. acer-5100

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    Well, if one needs some apps there is always time to install them (they are downloaded anyway by the script)

    or

    As suggested in previous messages by pm67310 you can leave SkipApps = 0 and edit CustomAppsList.txt

    something like this (obviously it's matter of personal needs/preferences)

    Code:
    
    ### Choose the wanted apps from below by removing # prefix
    
    ### Common Apps / Client editions all
    Microsoft.WindowsStore_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Microsoft.SecHealthUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.Windows.Photos_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.WindowsCamera_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Microsoft.WindowsNotepad_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.Paint_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.WindowsTerminal_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_cw5n1h2txyewy
    # Microsoft.WindowsAlarms_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.WindowsCalculator_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.WindowsMaps_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Microsoft.ScreenSketch_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.People_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.BingNews_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.BingWeather_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.WindowsFeedbackHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.GetHelp_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.Getstarted_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.Todos_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.XboxGameOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.PowerAutomateDesktop_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.549981C3F5F10_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # MicrosoftCorporationII.QuickAssist_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # MicrosoftCorporationII.MicrosoftFamily_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    ### Media Apps / Client non-N editions
    # Microsoft.ZuneMusic_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.ZuneVideo_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.YourPhone_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.WindowsSoundRecorder_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.GamingApp_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.XboxGamingOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Clipchamp.Clipchamp_yxz26nhyzhsrt
    
    ### Media Codecs / Client non-N editions, Team edition
    # Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.RawImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.WebpImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    ### Surface Hub Apps / Team edition
    # Microsoft.Whiteboard_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # microsoft.microsoftskydrive_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.MicrosoftTeamsforSurfaceHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # MicrosoftCorporationII.MailforSurfaceHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.MicrosoftPowerBIForWindows_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.SkypeApp_kzf8qxf38zg5c
    # Microsoft.Office.Excel_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.Office.PowerPoint_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    # Microsoft.Office.Word_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
     
  7. xinso

    xinso MDL Guru

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    Ah, I missed it. Thanks.
     
  8. Ace2

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    #48 Ace2, Sep 18, 2023
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2023
    ServerRDSH with CustomAppsList.txt

    Code:
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    Running UUP -> ISO v92
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    Checking UUP Info . . .
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    Configured Options . . .
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    CustomAppsList
    
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    Parsing Apps CompDB . . .
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    Preparing Reference ESDs . . .
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    Microsoft-OneCore-ApplicationModel-Sync-Desktop-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-OneCore-DirectX-Database-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Intel-E1i68x64-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Intel-E2f68-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Realtek-Rtcx21x64-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Vmware-Vmxnet3-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-FoDMetadata-Package
    Microsoft-Windows-Hello-Face-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-LA57-FoD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Basic-en-us-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Handwriting-en-us-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-OCR-en-us-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Speech-en-us-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-TextToSpeech-en-us-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-MediaPlayer-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-MediaPlayer-Package-wow64
    Microsoft-Windows-Notepad-System-FoD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Notepad-System-FoD-Package-wow64
    Microsoft-Windows-PowerShell-ISE-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-PowerShell-ISE-FOD-Package-wow64
    Microsoft-Windows-Printing-PMCPPC-FoD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-StepsRecorder-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-StepsRecorder-Package-wow64
    Microsoft-Windows-TabletPCMath-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wallpaper-Content-Extended-FoD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Broadcom-Bcmpciedhd63-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Broadcom-Bcmwl63a-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Broadcom-Bcmwl63al-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwbw02-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwew00-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwew01-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwlv64-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwns64-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwsw00-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw02-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw04-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw06-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw08-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw10-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Marvel-Mrvlpcie8897-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Qualcomm-Athw8x-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Qualcomm-Athwnx-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Qualcomm-Qcamain10x64-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Ralink-Netr28x-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl8187se-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl8192se-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl819xp-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl85n64-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtwlane-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtwlane01-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtwlane13-FOD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-WMIC-FoD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-WMIC-FoD-Package-wow64
    Microsoft-Windows-WordPad-FoD-Package-amd64
    Microsoft-Windows-WordPad-FoD-Package-wow64
    OpenSSH-Client-Package-amd64
    
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    Creating Setup Media Layout . . .
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    Creating install.wim . . .
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    Using LZX compression with 2 threads
    Archiving file data: 6673 MiB of 6673 MiB (100%) done
    
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    Updating install.wim / 1 image(s) . . .
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    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.844
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Adding Apps . . .
    
    Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.x64.1.3
    Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.x64.1.7
    Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.x64.2.2
    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.x64.1.4
    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.x64.1.7
    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.x64.2.2
    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.1
    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.3
    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.4
    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.7
    Microsoft.VCLibs.x64.14.00
    Microsoft.VCLibs.x64.14.00.Desktop
    Microsoft.WindowsNotepad_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Microsoft.SecHealthUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.844
    
    Image File : C:\Users\User\Desktop\22621.2359_amd64_en-us_professional_7376c94d_convert\ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Unmounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" original size: 2911955 KiB
    Using LZX compression with 2 threads
    Archiving file data: 6779 MiB of 6779 MiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" optimized size: 2889460 KiB
    Space saved: 22495 KiB
    
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    Creating winre.wim . . .
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    Using LZX compression with 2 threads
    Archiving file data: 1182 MiB of 1182 MiB (100%) done
    
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    Adding winre.wim to install.wim . . .
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    Creating boot.wim . . .
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    Creating ISO . . .
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    OSCDIMG 2.56 CD-ROM and DVD-ROM Premastering Utility
    Copyright (C) Microsoft, 1993-2012. All rights reserved.
    Licensed only for producing Microsoft authorized content.
    
    
    Scanning source tree (500 files in 43 directories)
    Scanning source tree complete (944 files in 86 directories)
    
    Computing directory information complete
    
    Image file is 4176117760 bytes (before optimization)
    
    Writing 944 files in 86 directories to 22621.1.220506-1250.NI_RELEASE_CLIENTPRO_OEMRET_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
    
    100% complete
    
    Storage optimization saved 24 files, 14239744 bytes (1% of image)
    
    After optimization, image file is 4164016128 bytes
    Space saved because of embedding, sparseness or optimization = 14239744
    
    Done.
    Finished.
    
    Press 0 to exit.
    Let's see if "HideLocalAccountScreen" = 0 works & if Wireless Networking is working.
    Code:
    md C:\mount
    
    Dism /Mount-Image /ImageFile:C:\install.wim /Index:1 /MountDir:C:\mount
    
    Dism /Image:C:\mount /Get-CurrentEdition
    Dism /Image:C:\mount /Get-TargetEditions
    Del C:\mount\Windows\Professional.xml
    Dism /Image:C:\mount /Set-Edition:ServerRDSH
    
    Dism /Image:C:\mount /Get-Featureinfo /FeatureName:WirelessNetworking
    Error: 0x800f080c Feature name WirelessNetworking is unknown.
    
    Reg.exe load HKLM\SOFTHIVE C:\mount\windows\system32\config\SOFTWARE
    Reg.exe add "HKLM\SOFTHIVE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE" /v "HideLocalAccountScreen" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
    Reg.exe add "HKLM\SOFTHIVE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System" /v "VerboseStatus" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    Reg.exe add "HKLM\SOFTHIVE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SideBySide\Configuration" /v "DisableResetbase" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    Reg.exe unload HKLM\SOFTHIVE
    
    Dism /Image:C:\mount /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
    Dism /Image:C:\mount /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase
    
    Dism /Unmount-Image /MountDir:C:\mount /Commit
    Update:
    Didn't work...
    Code:
    Reg.exe add "HKLM\SOFTHIVE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE" /v "HideLocalAccountScreen" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
    I can confirm wireless networking is not working.
     
  9. Ace2

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    Not Working:
    I can confirm wireless networking is not working.

    Working:
    Windows Defender can be disabled when Microsoft.SecHealthUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe is installed.

    Code:
    Reg.exe add "HKLM\SOFTHIVE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\Reliability" /v "ShutDownReasonOn" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    Reg.exe add "HKLM\SOFTHIVE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System" /v "VerboseStatus" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    At setup, on select language screen press Shift + F10 to show Command Prompt, Enter these commands to add localuser.
    Code:
    net user [username] /add
    net localgroup administrators [username] /add
    
    or
    
    net user username password /add
    net localgroup administrators [username] /add
     
  10. acer-5100

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    No idea about what's wrong, all my parallel installations are used (also) as my main WIFI router, which works perfectly (obviously using W7/8 drivers) in any windows from Win7 to Server 11 / Win 11 2593xx.
    (259xx are broken but that's another matter)

    So I would have noticed if WIFI was not working
     
  11. atgpud2003

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    $4000 for Server OS, not true.. about $500 to $600 RETAIL.. So, before you think cost $4000 wrong... I have Windows Server 2022 Standard for 98% off!

    ATGPUD2003
     
  12. acer-5100

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    MS pricing is a jungle, but when you start installing SKUs that you pay per core on a 128 core EPYC, possibly 4000$ looks like the greatest deal of the century.
     
  13. acer-5100

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    @Tito @Alphawaves

    or whoever merged the discussion.

    Really I don't understand that move.

    My discussion is about having a clean Installation, RDSH is just a detail there

    This thread is about the RDSH as SKU, and has little to do with mine.

    Please split it back.

    Thanks :)
     
  14. Ace2

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    Now i have found a working W7 [Server] wifi driver going to rebuild image and test again...;)
     
  15. acer-5100

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    To be clear W7-8 drivers are required just for hosted network (the hotspot feature) I use them for that reason, not to have the normal WIFI client working.
     
  16. Ace2

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    Code:
    Windows 11 (22621.1) Pro to ServerRDSH with CustomAppsList.txt
    
    Wireless networking working with Windows 8.1 driver.
    
    Windows Defender settings can be disabled or enabled when Microsoft.SecHealthUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe is installed.
    
    Reg.exe add "HKLM\SOFTHIVE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\Reliability" /v "ShutDownReasonOn" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    Reg.exe add "HKLM\SOFTHIVE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System" /v "VerboseStatus" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    
    At setup, on select language screen press Shift + F10 to show Command Prompt, Enter these commands to add localuser.
    
    net user [username] /add
    net localgroup administrators [username] /add
    
    or
    
    net user username password /add
    net localgroup administrators [username] /add
    :cool:

    credit acer-5100
     
  17. atgpud2003

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    I borrow my friend who has 40 cores 2011-v3 Intel CPU and I tested on Windows Server 2022 and show 40 cores.. Why need 128 cores? it crazy... 12 cores I my server now is damn hella fast.. Now I just bought 14 cores cpu 2011-v3 and It was cheap by now.. SO, plan do built new server for Website host and email with 32 gb ram.. My Website use MariaDB and My email works with along MariaDB as 3rd party no problems..

    ATGPUD2003
     
  18. Ace2

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    Thanks for being clear, because i would have stop looking for the right drivers.
    Now i know i need:
    Code:
    QCA9377 Wireless Adapter driver for Windows 11/10 [Client]
    QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Adapter driver for Windows 11/10 [Server]
    
     
  19. jp50658

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    Hello All

    Can any one guide me to the windows 11 enterprise version which can run on ARM64 processor with multi session enabled.

    thanks
     
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