[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Official Build 22000.xxx (PC) [co_release]

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Jun 28, 2021.

  1. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    If I actually used a touch screen device I probably would, but I don't.
    Not to sound elitist or anything, but I learned how to type when I was a teenager so I never got into touch screens at all.
    I see them as a complete waste of time. I have nothing good to say about them.
    Well that's not true. I guess they save space for phones. Still, for a computer where you don't actually care if it is mobile, it's not useful for me.

    And that's what most of the ui changes I've seen in this build are centered around.
    There is the zoom call knockoff but I also have no use for that.

    A lot of the stuff that is being added really strikes me as "Trying to be like Apple"
    I guess it makes business sense, but I already dislike Apple products with a passion so it's not going to win any favors with me.
     
  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I have a Asus Transformerbook T100TA (main user is my wife playing to many store games on it), it's a laptop/tablet with touch screen, came with 8.1 x86 pre-installed, it probably won't run 11 because it's x86, has just 32GB emmc (x64 won't be really workable on it) and 2GB ram.
     
  3. Schroedinger2015

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    I'd like to understand something related to missing localization text strings.

    I've downloaded 22000.100 from uup dump site, created ISO and tested in both ways (via VM and a real installation) and in all tests I see some string text options are non tully localized.

    Furthermore, I've noticed that with 22000.65 after installing updates, Microsoft Store automatically downloads a localized experience package which, indeed, translates some missing strings,
    while with the new 22000.100 this is not happening. So I'm wondering if this is a normal behaviour for Windows 11 or not. Any help will be very appreciated. Thanks.
     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    That's from the beginning partially translated but that probably will improve in time.
     
  5. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    #2505 acer-5100, Jul 24, 2021
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    Deploy using the LZX compression and a clean x64 install will fit in 8GB or so. 2GB is likely more problematic
     
  6. kgtuning

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    windows 11? I have it installed on my gaming computer which is a 10900k, GB Aorus master z590 board, 32 gb of gskill ram and a 3090. Everything runs pretty good. No big issues gaming in 4k. Xbox controller has to be disabled then renabled every time i boot it up but controllers have been an issue for me for a long time. I haven’t run any benchmarks but in real world application I can’t tell the difference from this to win10.
     
  7. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    Since Day 1 WHY ?
     
  8. tonyh2004

    tonyh2004 MDL Member

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    Works really well on my pc and laptop no big issues seems as good as 10 if not better happy to use all the time
     
  9. P40L0

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    Same on my main laptop.
    It's a pretty good base with a new UI/UX refresh on top and very minor issues which get fixed fast week after week.

    22000.1 with all the CUs applied will be a great start for Win11 this October.
     
  10. oggy

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    Hello,

    Does anyone have this problem : when I right click on a folder in file explorer I have to wait for "focus" otherwise the context menu disappears ?
    I can't do a quick right click and then eg. delete my folder, I have to wait a little while for the ribbon icons to light up.

    Sorry for my English...

    Thank you
     
  11. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    Yeah same here from first build
     
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  12. Odev

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    The inevitability of an action doesn't contemplate the before or the after, but only the fulfillment.
     
  13. crossup

    crossup MDL Member

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    MS team is a big reason of worry. I have had the misfortune to witness the glory that is MS Teams. It takes 2 GB+ to function normally and that's the current client made with electron. Now MS has announced that remade W11 Teams will use "half the ram". So, a 1 GB+ ram hog app in integrated into W11. I wonder how that would go.
     
  14. acer-5100

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    Be sure that if some nations started to tax the storage devices per GB and the datacenters per KW consumed and your inevitability would turn magically in some more reasonable actions.

    The Americans started to buy and produce decent cars only when the gasoline's price reached values that hurt their wallets, the same would happen in other wasting scenarios, IT included.
     
  15. eemuler

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    I don't use a touchscreen either, but my niece who is a graphic designer swears by it. She has a stylus that she uses for more precision, but even without it she'll do stuff like draw a box to select, then drag it to a different place, etc. with her fingers. Looks weird to me, but feels natural to her. Multi-finger gestures, rotating a selected object, that kind of thing.

    Microsoft should consider a touchscreen as being just another peripheral - a display and input device combo - and tailor the GUI according to what the user has. Those of us who don't have a touchscreen don't need a GUI designed for a tablet. They should focus on a switchable GUI - an enhanced version of the tablet mode you can see in flip laptops where the screen folds over to turn the laptop into a tablet. Display scaling options need a lot of work too. I tried using a different scaling and it felt so uncomfortable I switched back within a few hours.
     
  16. mrbbq

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    They did.
    We ended up with Windows 8.
    Pass.
     
  17. d5aqoëp

    d5aqoëp MDL Addicted

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    Microsoft doomed Windows 8/8.1/10 and now 11 with their Touchscreen obsession which 99% of their users don't have nor care. Apple is keeping touch nonsense out of macOS.

    TBH it's really hard to find a true middle ground for touchscreen and mouse/kb users. Look at the comically large context menus in W11 for example.
     
  18. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Graphic designer is really the only serious job/hobby I could really understand for touch screen/stylus use.
     
  19. WardocsRevenge

    WardocsRevenge MDL Expert

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    yes and it's not s**t windows 11 is amazing best OS microsoft made in a long time but clowns be hating cause they are too slow to adapt
     
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  20. bjf2000

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    That new Teams client isn't the chat thing appearing in W11. It's a whole new Teams client (standalone, and far more than chat, just like the Electron one), not yet released--and not being built in.