[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Official Build 22000.xxx (PC) [co_release]

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Jun 28, 2021.

  1. mrbbq

    mrbbq MDL Addicted

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    I still can't quite get over this idea that Microsoft think asking "average users" - the type who fall for malware and tech support scams - to go into the BIOS and find the right setting (which can have several names...) is a realistic or wise prospect.
     
  2. Aoruswing

    Aoruswing MDL Novice

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    They ask nothing for the time being since W11 is in Beta/Dev etc. only adventurers/power users are the ones installing it. W10 is here for the next 5 Years at least.....
     
  3. nosirrahx

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    ExFAT would be nice since a lot of huge external flash devices come formatted in ExFAT.
     
  4. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    As I understand it, bios firmware is being shipped with PPT/IPT/fTPM disabled by default. MS will probably encourage them to enable it so that Win11 could be adopted more easily. I think TPM is going to be a sticking point for adoption for quite a while.
     
  5. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    The initial tool was cloned by an amateurish open source tool, not developed by MS, likely the core of that app is still there and MS guys are too lazy to properly overhaul the thing.

    After all is what they are used to do often, see regedit.exe which still lacks a proper right click support because it's an half backed merge of Regedit from w95 and regedt32 from win nt3.x
     
  6. Mellipes

    Mellipes MDL Senior Member

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    Loving the "debate" what release is RTM etc etc etc. While technically correct, its rather silly to the average user like me.

    All I want is the final release, in an ISO so I can use it. That will come after Beta testing, and on past trends, it will be a month to a few weeks before the official release date.
     
  7. MELERIX

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    iirc some new systems already accept to boot from an ExFat device and if I'm not wrong even Ventoy and Rufus have an option for it, or even from ntfs.
     
  8. Mellipes

    Mellipes MDL Senior Member

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    Not wrong, one time the average user could go into the BIOS with a degree of confidence and change things. Fast forward and BIOS are now far more complicated to the average person. How M$ are going to get the vast majority of people to enable TPM to get Windows 11 is something I am watching with curiosity.

    Unless they somehow get the install program to enable it if present.
     
  9. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    22000.100 x64 internally refreshed to include update KB9999125

    could be Mixed Reality update, or just for testing
     
  10. albacore78

    albacore78 MDL Member

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    windows 11 22000.111 very soon
     
  11. albacore78

    albacore78 MDL Member

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    22000.111.co_release.210726-1600 i dunno look wrong
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Yeah, very very very soon....
     
  13. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Addicted

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    If by soon you mean next week, on Thursday... then yeah lol.

    Unless they've changed their mind and decide to release it today at 2PM.
     
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  14. mrbbq

    mrbbq MDL Addicted

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    An installer that will do so correctly for every BIOS version out there? (And then similarly, if they can do it, any arse can and disable TPM leaving the user with a hosed system, etc.)
     
  15. oilernut

    oilernut MDL Senior Member

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    A good chance they aren't even going to try to upgrade people to Windows 11 (unless the device meets all the requirements) and people will just remain on Windows 10 21H2.
     
  16. eemuler

    eemuler MDL Senior Member

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    Given that a typical system lasts about 3-5 years, by the time 2025 comes around and support for Windows 10 officially ends, all PCs will support Windows 11 out of the box.
    Regarding the idea that Windows setup can automatically enable the required settings in the UEFI, there is a lot that WMI can do, and it should be possible.
     
  17. Mellipes

    Mellipes MDL Senior Member

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    I always think its funny those who say computers last 3-5 years, so all systems will comply soon enough. ------ The trouble with that logic is while its sound in rich developed countries, for the vast majority of users they hang on to computers for 10 plus years, even longer. Thus saying oh you'll get support for Windows 10 for another 5 years just doesn't cut it for most.

    Some have to get out of the bubble and into the real world.
     
  18. oilernut

    oilernut MDL Senior Member

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    And they can continue to use Windows 10 without issue. Lots of people still use Windows 7 without issue. They don't have to all use Windows 11.
     
  19. vipanonymous

    vipanonymous MDL Senior Member

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    Once W11 is released there's gonna be a way to opt-out of beta channel without a clean install? I mean it was possible with Windows 10 beta builds.
     
  20. ciscokid

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