[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Official Build 22000.xxx (PC) [co_release]

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Jun 28, 2021.

  1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  2. cuteee

    cuteee MDL Guru

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    Why people want ISO file ? Tomorrow we'll get new update for Windows 11.
     
  3. farmers

    farmers MDL Senior Member

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    I think part of the problem is that MS keep on 'refreshing' the design, and never seem to finish one before they refresh it again. Hence we get a Taskbar that's been 'refreshed' so much they've had to remove everything it used to be able to do.
     
  4. W_fantasma

    W_fantasma MDL Senior Member

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    #3764 W_fantasma, Aug 18, 2021
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    Then, stop posting stuff from chinese websites :rolleyes:

    Sorry for insist, but, you see why we need you as a mod?
     
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  5. Odev

    Odev MDL Junior Member

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    Exactly...
     
  6. boe323

    boe323 MDL Expert

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    Ppl who say they want official iso obviously dont have a clue how an iso is made, all the files on uup dump are official, the script just converts them to iso. Microsoft have there own way to make iso's with the same files.
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    ISOs, created and distributed by MSFT, are considered original, pre-converted ESD or UUP > ISOs aren't because of the local creation, most probably want to share them elsewhere.

    With 1904x msft installed the updates in audit mode, leaving all kinds of crap still in because of not cleaning it up properly, with 22000.xxx some of us like to find out how they did it this time;)
     
  8. freddie-o

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  9. Dresan

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    IMO Windows 11 today is not worth it, it looks like it is going to be a failure like Windows Vista, I'll wait for Windows 12.
     
  10. W_fantasma

    W_fantasma MDL Senior Member

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    Or win 11 27/H2
     
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  11. TheMarine

    TheMarine MDL Novice

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    Been using W11 since the "leak", still using it on my main M.2 drive, and will use in the future. I have no complaints so far. (Still maintain an up to date W10 though) My PC, Gigabyte X370, Ryzen 3900X, MSI 2070 video. I do meet all of MS requirements for Windows 11...

    Semper Fi,
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  12. DontuZoru

    DontuZoru MDL Senior Member

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    Where's the ISO ?
     
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  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    SOON;)
     
  14. DontuZoru

    DontuZoru MDL Senior Member

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    So..Not today..
     
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  15. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    If you look at the dev builds for win11 they've been working on it for years. Obviously they haven't dedicated as much manpower to it as they are now with the final release so close. I'm not going to revisit a certain debate and piss people off, but yes they're holding key parts of the OS as win10 versions until a last minute switch. You're right about that. But that being said, they have been working on both win10 and win11 simultaneously for years now. I'm not optimistic about the final result, but throwing expletives and insults won't help anyone.
     
  16. mrbbq

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    Of course that would be useful if we weren't already running the supposed final build, with none of those requirements being actually necessary in any way shape or form.
     
  17. boyonthebus

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    Can you give specific real-world examples of what you mean? Compare and contrast Microsoft with a new company of your choice and reference articles please.
     
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    #3778 Espionage724, Aug 18, 2021
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    I don't have a clue how an iso is made. For a legitimate install that I don't plan on obliterating that same day, I'd prefer to have an official iso.

    UUP dump to me is a project made by someone I don't know, and I have to trust it works correctly, along with it not doing anything malicious. I trust it enough to use it for testing, but I don't expect I'd ever run a legitimate long-term install with any custom iso. It's open-source, but that doesn't mean too much to me since I'm not going to read every individual line to make sure it's actually doing what it claims to be doing.

    Years ago back in XP/Vista days, I probably wouldn't have cared less about this. I've ran those XP "gaming OS" images from piracy sites without question back in the day lol. It's a whole different ordeal nowadays with entities sneaking crypto-mining, bot nets, ransomware, and RATs where they can, especially since there's financial gain more than ever with those.

    What defines finished? I don't imagine Microsoft is still doing security or any kind of updates for Windows 95, 98, ME, 2000, or any OS older than Vista or 7; or Google with Android 1-8, Apple with macOS older than Tiger, etc. The only surprise here was XP getting a WannaCry patch back in 2019, but I don't expect that to happen ever again for XP.

    Basically, I consider an OS finished when the company behind it announces an EOL date and that date is reached, or if there's been no updates to it for a year or two (assuming the OS is superseded by a newer version by the same company). And in the event a company does a wide-scale security patch for older operating systems, any OS or device that isn't on that list is 100% finished.
     
  19. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It works by using msft included instructions, same as when you use WU for feature updates, the used scripts are open to review.

    If it did something malicious, it wouldn't be allowed on MDL.
     
  20. Odev

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    I know that Windows is the unique OS in the market, at the moment, to offer an inconsistent user experience (from the times of Windows Vista). And this is a very serious lack, especially for those touch devices where properly scalable WinUI make the difference (as a fully dark mode, after all).

    Damn...they presented a refreshed interface, talking about "attention to details". It's hilarious xD.

    We both know this (although you say otherwise). :D