[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Official Build 22000.xxx (PC) [co_release]

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Jun 28, 2021.

  1. Mellipes

    Mellipes MDL Senior Member

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    In regards to all this "Unsupported Versions", and whether one will get none, some, or all updates. My personal view is there is NO WAY that M$ wont give full updates. They just cant afford not too. Its all bluff and tuff this talk one wont get them. Heard the same with Windows 8 and 10.

    But regardless of what they do, Its been said many times, why not wait and see what happens. Even if they somehow block updates, W11 is supposes to get fewer updates, and only one major update a year. That means one can be far more relaxed over this issue. Once a year means plenty of time to get a work around.
     
  2. yro

    yro MDL Addicted

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    well, im ok with all that stuff from microsoft and win11... i have full faith that this time ill gor to the route of dual boot windows 11 (without tpm and all that cr$p) with kde neon... and from time to time ill try to figure ways of replacing things on windows for the ones one linux.. untill ill be a complet tux guy.. :p
     
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  3. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Addicted

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    If you want something that's IMHO a middle-ground between advanced and user friendly... Try Fedora.
     
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  4. d5aqoëp

    d5aqoëp MDL Addicted

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    Please no Linux. It still sucks donkey balls even in 2021. Simple things still need terminal scripts. Nvidia drivers are busted for the most part.
     
  5. Hacker?pcs

    Hacker?pcs MDL Member

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    I want to test the latest things in the VM, I'll stay on Dev but just leaving it like that without logged in to Insider will stay on Dev right?
     
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  6. P40L0

    P40L0 MDL Senior Member

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    #4326 P40L0, Aug 30, 2021
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    Or just don't install/upgrade to Windows 11 if you don't meet the minimum requirements (which are known since last June).
    Windows 10 will still be actively supported until 2025 (at least).
     
  7. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Yeah, they've made it pretty clear that people shouldn't use Windows 11 unless they meet the hardware requirements. Just because we can find bypasses to sneak around their velvet rope security doesn't mean that they can't up their game. They still haven't shown their hand with activation. If they tie activation into needing TPM, even digital entitlement, that would put a lot of potential bypass folks off. I'm not saying they will. I'm just suggesting they could as an effective way of pushing the need for TPM adoption. If they really wanted people to have these chips, they could start now and just wait until Win10 support died off. Eventually people would give up trying to out-wait MS. Many would try to switch to Linux, but since MS doesn't have any serious competition, most would give up and just use the newer software. I would probably be one of them. I'd wait it out for a few years to make sure there is no serious privacy concerns and then go along with it like everyone else.
     
  8. jonaand

    jonaand MDL Senior Member

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    nothing that say here have any sense
    in 2021 still getting updates windows XP
     
  9. Hacker?pcs

    Hacker?pcs MDL Member

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    Last XP update was in 2019 for the embedded version
     
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  10. DontuZoru

    DontuZoru MDL Senior Member

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    M$ should fix the crappy L3 cache performance with Ryzen systems.
     
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  11. BlackScout

    BlackScout MDL Member

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    Reverting to Windows 10 for that very reason. I don't want crippled performance :l
     
  12. jeff69dini

    jeff69dini MDL Expert

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    have they even acknowledged it?
     
  13. Flax4

    Flax4 MDL Senior Member

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    Nope, neither are they acknowledging the horrible explorer performance issues.
     
  14. boyonthebus

    boyonthebus MDL Expert

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    Strangely enough I haven't any performance issues of which I am aware.
     
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  15. itsmemario1

    itsmemario1 MDL Expert

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    Yes, it was for XP Embedded POSReady (April 2019)

    But afaik many, many banking systems, postal computers and sport centers still recieve updates for XP, by "simply" paying M$ for "premium" extended support.
     
  16. Mellipes

    Mellipes MDL Senior Member

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    ACTIVATION AND KEYS

    Normally with previous new versions at this stage of the release there would be a lot of talk on potential keys and how they will activate the operating system, and getting the time bomb on pre-releases removed. Yet its deadly silent. All on minimum requirements instead.

    All I can guess its either M$ has a new cunning plan on this, ---- OR ------ M$ has finally realised its a losing game and sticking with the tried and true W10 activation.
     
  17. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    What keys? It still is the same as with 10.

    Can't remember when there was a key discussion on MDL, other than the generic ones.
     
  18. Mellipes

    Mellipes MDL Senior Member

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    #4339 Mellipes, Aug 30, 2021
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    yeh thats the point. Everything is centered around Windows 10, activation and keys they are using. All the talk a month out from Windows 10 release was getting around the specific computer based activation (UEFI) and with what keys. this time round, NOT A PEEP released about activation and how they are going to do it. ---- to me just weirde.
     
  19. mrbbq

    mrbbq MDL Addicted

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    I mean I've had 11 running on my 2011 era netbook on a crappy 1.6Ghz Intel Atom 24 hours a day for several days straight. If they want to claim that can't run it just perfectly well and deny updates... Okay. I'll keep running it and update it myself. It works for me, I don't need their "official support" apparently.