[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Official Build 22000.xxx (PC) [co_release]

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Jun 28, 2021.

  1. Espionage724

    Espionage724 MDL Expert

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    With quick Geekbench runs, newer W10 builds had slightly higher numbers compared to 1809 LTSC. Microsoft implemented CPU scheduler changes I think back on 1903 that supposedly helps with Ryzen's architecture (I'm not sure if it's just CPPC or if it also takes into account CCX). These changes are on all W10 builds newer than 1903, but it was never implemented on 1809 LTSC.

    I'm not sure if the scheduler changes are actually detailed anywhere though aside from just being an "improvement". If it's the introduction of CPPC, then realistically that would only matter for Zen2 and newer (not Zen1 nor Zen+), in which case the 2700X I have wouldn't benefit. If it's about CCX awareness though, then that apparently is helpful for all Ryzen CPUs aside from (some of?) the latest 5000 series where they only have one CCX. Having threads cross CCXs has a notable performance penalty due to the high latency of cross-CCX communications if I understand right.

    With games and general usage, I don't believe I really noticed a difference though. I use the latest W10 release just to be on the safe side and I have it tweaked relatively well to make it as-light as LTSC. Apparently Process Lasso can also be used to (manually?) control where threads go as an alternative.
     
  2. perceivedelusion

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    Saw an old news clip of Gates last night saying consumers were idiots in thinking the web would ever be used for anything but business. This was just before they came up with the web browser IE because the Netscape browser was kicking the microchips out of their butt.
    Glad to see he still thinks he's the smartest douchebag around.
     
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  3. perceivedelusion

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    Does "CTRL + C" still work?
     
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  4. DontuZoru

    DontuZoru MDL Senior Member

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    So the cripped taskbar will remain..
     
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  5. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    Microsoft does not consider the Taskbar as crippled. Consider Win 11 Done but for Bug Fixes. Next Version of Windows Fall 2022.
     
  6. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Not enough time to change it even if they wanted to. They gotta bug fix for release.
     
  7. ceo54

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    Hardware manufactures and Microsoft work in tandem. They are greedy capitalists who have figured out that best way to rob the end user is to collaborate with each other. This new hardware requirements is just a ploy to get the user to dump their current machines and invest into newer, latest hardware. Remember when Windows 10 came out and how Intel and others refused to provide the drivers for 7th gen and up CPU's for Windows 7 and 8.1 so that everyone on those CPU's is forced to upgrade to Windows 10 just as Microsoft wanted? Now it's Microsoft returning the favor to OEM's.

    One more thing I would like to add. I despise Windows 10 for various reasons, two control panels, forced updates, semi-annual upgrade channel, forced telemetry etc etc but now looking at Windows 11 and everything that it is, Windows 10 suddenly looks like a decent choice.
     
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  8. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Start your own company from scratch and be a philanthropist, let's see how long it exists;)
     
  9. audiofeel

    audiofeel MDL Novice

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    this is impossible with the current social system of America.
     
  10. mrbbq

    mrbbq MDL Addicted

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    And they'll be doing that how? Magic? Some other conspiracy nonsense?
    :rolleyes:
     
  11. mrbbq

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    Welcome to 2021 - where Bill Gates hasn't been involved with Microsoft even as part of the board for more than 2 years now.
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    That would be impossible in every society.
    In tradition of the great american industrialists from the past in the US, he became a philanthropist.
     
  13. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    Just a reminder, next Week will be a short Week. Many in the US take tomorrow off (Fri) for a 4 Day Weekend Holiday. Microsoft will be Closed on Monday (Labor Day in the US).
     
  14. W_fantasma

    W_fantasma MDL Senior Member

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    He is watching "news" on Internet Explorer...
     
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  15. jmtella

    jmtella MDL Senior Member

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    My question is: why in the new Server 2022 do not require these specifications ?. A server is supposed to be more secure.

    This looks like a conspiracy with the hardware manufacturers.

    I imagine that they will have, at least in the UE, dozens of complaints for obsolescence
     
  16. alex8808

    alex8808 MDL Novice

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    New Dev build today?
     
  17. mrbbq

    mrbbq MDL Addicted

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    I mean they haven't even bothered implementing WSL2 on Server 2022 - kind of a useful thing for servers to have - never mind the new UI. The consumer edition would make a better server than Server there. They aren't making the best choices here.
     
  18. verndog

    verndog MDL Member

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    His ex wife my have a comment on that.