[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 SE

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by SAM-R, Nov 10, 2021.

  1. owouwu

    owouwu MDL Novice

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    SE is based on Pro.
     
  2. cool_recep

    cool_recep MDL Novice

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    Well, the installation did not ask me to choose any edition. It just installed itself as Home.
     
  3. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Do you have OEM brand laptop/pc that came with 8.x Core or 10 Home?

    And what were the SKUs you selected on UUP dump?
     
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  4. cool_recep

    cool_recep MDL Novice

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    Nope. I installed it on a DTPC.

    I didn't select. Just used defaults.
     
  5. RobrPatty

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    Once I d/l uup's and converted to ISO. Opened .wim deleted all indexies accept SE and saved. then installed with no issues.
    @cool_recep You must have had Home SKU along with SE in your .wim. That's your issue.
     
  6. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #26 Enthousiast, Nov 12, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2021
    Download Pro only on the UUP dump website.
    And then set the convertconfig.ini like this, you will end up with a Cloud Edition only ISO:
    Code:
    [create_virtual_editions]
    vAutoStart   =1
    vDeleteSource=1
    vPreserve    =0
    vwim2esd     =0
    vSkipISO     =0
    vAutoEditions=CloudEdition
    
    Don't forget to set
    Code:
    StartVirtual =1
    in the upper part of the ini.
     
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  7. pawelm8

    pawelm8 MDL Novice

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    #27 pawelm8, Nov 12, 2021
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    I've made some corrections to the guide in my previous post to make it more clear.

    Also, don't add EmodePolicyRequired=1 in the end unless you want to have an unusable version of Windows 11 SE where only Store apps can be run.

    PS. You may want to remove this last screenshot or at least hide your email address, unless it's a dummy one.
     
  8. MARKZ1ON

    MARKZ1ON MDL Junior Member

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    So Win11 SE will not support desktop apps right? And it is not a good alternative for LTSC?
     
  9. RobrPatty

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    Tried this process twice and both times ended up:

    Index : 1
    Name : Windows 11 Pro
    Description : Windows 11 Pro
    Size : 15,917,288,573 bytes

    The operation completed successfully.
     
  10. RobrPatty

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    #31 RobrPatty, Nov 13, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2021
    Only way I can get SE is to download from UUP dump site is to add additional versions. Start off with Pro then add additional versions ie. ProWorkstation & Enterprise. During the conversion process SE is made. Edit ConvertConfig:


    [convert-UUP]
    AutoStart =1
    AddUpdates =1
    Cleanup =1
    ResetBase =0
    NetFx3 =1
    StartVirtual =1
    wim2esd =1
    SkipISO =0
    SkipWinRE =0
    ForceDism =0
    RefESD =0

    [create_virtual_editions]
    vAutoStart =1
    vDeleteSource=0
    vPreserve =0
    vwim2esd =1
    vSkipISO =0
    vAutoEditions=ProfessionalWorkstation,Enterprise,CloudEdition

    As pawelm8 says:
    Pick "Download, add additional editions and convert to ISO" option when generating it
     
  11. RobrPatty

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    Once I remove ProfessionalWorkstation & Enterprise from .wim then what is left is:

    Index : 1
    Name : Windows 11 SE
    Description : Windows 11 SE
    Size : 17,417,739,929 bytes

    The operation completed successfully.
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #33 Enthousiast, Nov 13, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2021
    I based my info on:
    But forgot to check, it actually is a virtual edition created from Core (but based on Pro), fixed my previous post.
    Code:
    dism.exe /image:c:\mount /Get-CurrentEdition
    
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.746
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.318
    
    Current edition is:
    
    Current Edition : Core
    The operation completed successfully
    
    Code:
    dism.exe /image:c:\mount /Get-TargetEditions
    
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.746
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.318
    
    Editions that can be upgraded to:
    
    Target Edition : CoreSingleLanguage
    Target Edition : Professional
    Target Edition : CloudEdition
    Target Edition : ProfessionalEducation
    Target Edition : ProfessionalWorkstation
    Target Edition : Education
    Target Edition : ProfessionalCountrySpecific
    Target Edition : ProfessionalSingleLanguage
    Target Edition : ServerRdsh
    
     
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  13. cool_recep

    cool_recep MDL Novice

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    I don't get it. You are telling me that SE is Pro based and then you also tell me to select Home. I'm now crating a new ISO and will let you know.
     
  14. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It's a virtual edition created from the core index, like pro is too, but the created OS is Pro based, in the past MSFT offered a free key to go from the Cloud S install to a full Pro install.

    Could be that UUP>ISO needs the pro esd too, will test.
     
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  15. RobrPatty

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    Nope here is end results:

    Index : 1
    Name : Windows 11 Home
    Description : Windows 11 Home
    Size : 17,234,689,544 bytes

    The operation completed successfully.
     
  16. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Code:
    dism.exe /image:c:\mount /Get-CurrentEdition
    
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.746
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.346
    
    Current edition is:
    
    Current Edition : Professional
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    
    Code:
    dism.exe /image:c:\mount /Get-TargetEditions
    
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.746
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.346
    
    Editions that can be upgraded to:
    
    Target Edition : CloudEdition
    Target Edition : ProfessionalEducation
    Target Edition : ProfessionalWorkstation
    Target Edition : Education
    Target Edition : ProfessionalCountrySpecific
    Target Edition : ProfessionalSingleLanguage
    Target Edition : ServerRdsh
    Target Edition : IoTEnterprise
    Target Edition : Enterprise
    
    Trying to combine home and pro to get cloudedition.
     
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  17. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #38 Enthousiast, Nov 13, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2021
    Seems it's a Pro virtual edition afterall:
    Code:
    
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    Running UUP -> ISO v74
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    Checking UUP Info . . .
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    Configured Options . . .
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    AutoStart 1
    AddUpdates 1
    StartVirtual
    
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    Preparing Reference ESDs . . .
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    Microsoft-OneCore-ApplicationModel-Sync-Desktop-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_850080cc
    Microsoft-OneCore-DirectX-Database-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_c7f6ef82
    Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Intel-E1i68x64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_40bf4b2a
    Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Intel-E2f68-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_9fff1a1f
    Microsoft-Windows-Ethernet-Client-Realtek-Rtcx21x64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_18640bd6
    Microsoft-Windows-Hello-Face-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_4eef75eb
    Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_e13add66
    Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-LA57-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_a9d2e850
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Basic-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_b10bf6dc
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Handwriting-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_f870c2e4
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-OCR-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_770c31d7
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Speech-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_46b766b6
    Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-TextToSpeech-en-us-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_b1f6d868
    Microsoft-Windows-MediaPlayer-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_782da79f
    Microsoft-Windows-Notepad-System-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_601a35f8
    Microsoft-Windows-PowerShell-ISE-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_54d99a41
    Microsoft-Windows-Printing-PMCPPC-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_a9f1d71d
    Microsoft-Windows-Printing-WFS-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_18374f01
    Microsoft-Windows-QuickAssist-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_3f507f42
    Microsoft-Windows-StepsRecorder-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_6c7db53c
    Microsoft-Windows-TabletPCMath-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_b0048556
    Microsoft-Windows-UserExperience-Desktop-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_caad76cb
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Broadcom-Bcmpciedhd63-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_96f73f39
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Broadcom-Bcmwl63a-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_520cb141
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Broadcom-Bcmwl63al-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_b1b198ac
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwbw02-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_33dfe12d
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwew00-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_dcc43699
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwew01-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_886d8d94
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwlv64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_34ec06e8
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwns64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_d2582c6e
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwsw00-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_e2140f20
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw02-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_a2d75be3
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw04-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_f7cccd71
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw06-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_d0fbd171
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Intel-Netwtw08-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_df8f7442
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Marvel-Mrvlpcie8897-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_9b9b5890
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Qualcomm-Athw8x-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_c4a7ffd3
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Qualcomm-Athwnx-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_71b1aeb5
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Qualcomm-Qcamain10x64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_2a408c8d
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Ralink-Netr28x-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_2c8f6f3b
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl8187se-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_7c5bfed2
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl8192se-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_02916dd9
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl819xp-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_d34ee42e
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtl85n64-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_e05ed434
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtwlane-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_101e067d
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtwlane01-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_e1badf1c
    Microsoft-Windows-Wifi-Client-Realtek-Rtwlane13-FOD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_2044b039
    Microsoft-Windows-WordPad-FoD-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_b3d612ae
    OpenSSH-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~_012fc547
    
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    Creating Setup Media Layout . . .
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    Creating install.wim . . .
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    Using LZX compression with 4 threads
    Archiving file data: 7377 MiB of 7377 MiB (100%) done
    
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    Updating install.wim / 1 image(s) . . .
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    1/5: SSU-22000.345-x64_17966151.cab [SSU]
    2/5: Windows10.0-KB5007262-x64_47fe39d4.cab [LCU]
    3/5: Windows10.0-KB5007268-x64_61213f2e.cab [Setup DU]
    4/5: Windows10.0-KB5007400-x64_3bda4aa2.cab [WinPE]
    5/5: Windows10.0-KB5007575-x64_28e206f7.cab
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Mounting image
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_ServicingStack_345~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22000.345.1.0
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB5007575~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22000.345.1.1
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22000.346.1.6
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image File : D:\22000.346_amd64_en-us_professional_886fa207_convert\ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
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    Unmounting image
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" original size: 4570644 KiB
    Using LZX compression with 4 threads
    Archiving file data: 10 GiB of 10 GiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" optimized size: 4527153 KiB
    Space saved: 43490 KiB
    
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    Adding setup dynamic update(s) . . .
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    Windows10.0-KB5007268-x64_61213f2e.cab
    
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    Creating winre.wim . . .
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    Using LZX compression with 4 threads
    Archiving file data: 1056 MiB of 1056 MiB (100%) done
    
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    Updating winre.wim / 1 image(s) . . .
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    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Mounting image
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_ServicingStack_345~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22000.345.1.0
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB5007400~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22000.341.1.3
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    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
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    Image Version: 10.0.22000.132
    
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    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.132
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22000.346.1.6
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22000.346
    
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.22000.1
    
    Image File : D:\22000.346_amd64_en-us_professional_886fa207_convert\temp\winre.wim
    Image Index : 1
    Saving image
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    Unmounting image
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    The operation completed successfully.
    
    Using LZX compression with 4 threads
    Archiving file data: 1075 MiB of 1075 MiB (100%) done
    
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    Adding winre.wim to install.wim . . .
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    "ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim" original size: 761197 KiB
    Using LZX compression with 4 threads
    Archiving file data: 1210 MiB of 1210 MiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\boot.wim" optimized size: 505235 KiB
    Space saved: 255961 KiB
    
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    Checking Distribution Info . . .
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    Configured Virtual Options . . .
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    AutoStart
    DeleteSource
    AutoEditions: CloudEdition
    
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    Creating Edition: SE
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    Setting the WINDOWS/EDITIONID property of image 1 to "CloudEdition".
    Setting the FLAGS property of image 1 to "CloudEdition".
    Setting the DISPLAYNAME property of image 1 to "Windows 11 SE".
    Setting the DISPLAYDESCRIPTION property of image 1 to "Windows 11 SE".
    
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    Rebuilding install.wim . . .
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    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" original size: 4983444 KiB
    Using LZX compression with 4 threads
    Archiving file data: 10 GiB of 10 GiB (100%) done
    "ISOFOLDER\sources\install.wim" optimized size: 4942868 KiB
    Space saved: 40575 KiB
    
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    Creating ISO . . .
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    OSCDIMG 2.56 CD-ROM and DVD-ROM Premastering Utility
    Copyright (C) Microsoft, 1993-2012. All rights reserved.
    Licensed only for producing Microsoft authorized content.
    
    
    Scanning source tree (500 files in 42 directories)
    Scanning source tree complete (936 files in 85 directories)
    
    Computing directory information complete
    
    Image file is 5850857472 bytes (before optimization)
    
    Writing 936 files in 85 directories to 22000.346.211105-1539.CO_RELEASE_SVC_PROD2_CLIENTCLOUD_OEMRET_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
    
    100% complete
    
    Storage optimization saved 24 files, 14217216 bytes (1% of image)
    
    After optimization, image file is 5838749696 bytes
    Space saved because of embedding, sparseness or optimization = 14217216
    
    Done.
    
    
    
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    Press 0 to exit.
    
    @RobrPatty did you set "StartVirtual =1" in the upper part of the ini file?
    Code:
    [01] 13/11/2021 en-US x64 10.0.22000.346 Windows 11 SE | CloudEdition
    will test with only core as source.
     
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  18. luzea

    luzea MDL Expert

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    There's no need for additional tests, as already pointed out by @owouwu, CloudEdition is based on Professional and can't be created with only Metadata ESD for Core.

    Professional -> CloudEdition
    ProfessionalN -> CloudEditionN
    are the only supported paths.
     
  19. Enthousiast

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