DISCUSSION: Windows 8.1 Spring 2014 Update RTM

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by Tito, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    So... uh... how about the weather? crazy hmm?
     
  2. Fernando 1

    Fernando 1 MDL Senior Member

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    WZOR just has announced, that the RTM build of the Win8.1 Update 1 will not be ready before March.
     
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  3. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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    WZOR is just trying to get back face because the MDL guys laughed at his "keygen" . :haha:
     
  4. bchat

    bchat MDL Smart Azz

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    Now that remark is just plain cold, probably true, but still cold...:whistle3:
     
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  5. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin

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    I have respect for what they do there and I'm sure a lot of it gets lost in translation, but I still stand by what I said before. That being that they shouldn't release an app called a "keygen" if the keys doesn't pass activation tests as then we'll all just get flooded with fake keys. That'll then make finding real keys that much harder.

    Looking at their comments there they're currently trying to find real keys that differ by 1 bit, just to see if that reveals anything. I wouldn't bet on it since the secret parameter isn't generated like the reset of the key. The best we'll ever get without a leak from within MS are keys that work against pkeyconfig but fail online checks.
     
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  6. Boops

    Boops MDL Addicted

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    Keep talking about it does not help that the waters back on track. If we keep beating the drums and not let rumors sleep.
     
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  7. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    No, I disagree that WZT thought of their "keygen" more than it actually was capable of.
    Someone in their comments mentioned the lack of utility and they clearly replied it was useful for finding gVLK for these newer SKUs
    I think that whole issue was people projecting what they "hoped" it would be onto what it was actually capable of.
    WZT never gave any false illusions of activating said "keys"
     
  8. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    Do you?, or are you relying on complete guesswork that Google translate is wrong ?
     
  9. CorporateRAT

    CorporateRAT MDL Member

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    You were supposed to ignore me? I'm from central Europe and i know how g translate is good when it comes to our languages.
     
  10. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    Answer the question
     
  11. CorporateRAT

    CorporateRAT MDL Member

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    No i don't but i happen to share a bed with someone who does. Happy?
     
  12. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Pissing contest aside, there's no way they'll ever make a working keygen without some sort of MS engineer leaking the secret value generation algorithm.
    The only thing their keygen is currently good for is finding the gVLK for the new skus.
     
  13. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    Stop being such a smart-ass then.

    Say Hi to your Russian speaking father for me
     
  14. s1ave77

    s1ave77 Has left at his own request

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    AMEN! :cool2:.
     
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  15. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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    There is no "secret value generation algorithm", with storage so cheap(it's close to worthless) nowadays, MS simply recorded every single key and hardware hashes, if you phone activate, the encrypted code consists of the index to the key recorded in their servers. :D
     
  16. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    semantics...
    Either way MS requires your hardware info and spits out a confirmation id that we're unable to generate ourselves.
    If someone really wanted to bypass the retail activation, they should reverse the associated programs and reporting tasks, not play with keys. Keys only work if MS allows them to.
     
  17. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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    LOL, the golden grail of hackers and pirates. :p
     
  18. victorios

    victorios MDL Member

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    WZ0R announces Windows 8.1 2014 Spring Update will be available in March 2014, but for public release will be April 2014.