The so-called "debunked" was base on the assumption that KB2941455 is a public hotfix, the fact is it is a test KB targeted to OEM's only. I've heard that 17031 is the RTM from sources earlier and more accurate than WZOR, so unless for a extreme reason, this wouldn't change. But I won't be so sure that KB2919355 is final, or what version of win8.1Update1 will hit MSDN.
There's no need to be defensive bud. We all know that we cannot count our chickens before they hatch. MS could override the RTM status and re-issue a new version or supplement fix at any time. We were just saying that the publicly available hotfix was in fact referring to 2919355 as RTM_GM It doesn't mean that's the version we're definitely going to get. It's just more likely that they'd patch onto it rather than re-rtm the whole thing again.
If it would be only a test hotfix for OEMs, Microsoft would not go to the hassle of publishing a user friendly KB support page, explaining to a home user what that hotfix fixes in the filemanager and camera apps: each and every KB has short technical version of release notes on internal sites not offer the public download of the hotfix: i.e. there are plenty of other hotfixes that require the user to contact support, to be obtained publish it for OEMs only, on the internal dedicated site, through partner domains federation P.S.: When I asked you to read my earlier posts, I did not referred to only that post: the debunkation is not based only on that post, but also on other posts there as a whole.
It's not actually "windowed" mode...but you will get a titlebar with close & minimize buttons Windowed metro apps most probably will appear in Windows 9 (it's a speculation though)
Indeed... Sometimes people get caught up in the trivial things and forget we're all on the same team here People that have slightly different opinions are never a real problem. It's the people who intentionally mislead like that Jen girl or that Cleric guy that are real problems.
"Update 1" is still Windows 8.1 - By my reading of the KB article, the hotfix in question doesn't care whether "Update 1" is installed or not.
Of course it's still Windows 8.1, I was just noting that the update does care if Update 1 is installed or not as KB2919355 is the main Update 1 update.
It's half a new OS as you can look at it as 8.1 SP1. It's not because the version number didn't increase to 9601 and MS refuses to call it SP1 that the ammount of fixes/improvements isn't the same or even more than with a real SP. The only reason MS pretends it's not an SP (and thus also didn't increase the buildnumber) is to ensure compatibility and not scare off developers. This in turn ensures that there is no reason not to install the update, which also means that they can be lazy by not updating 2 branches (or whatever you call it). They can set update 1 as requirement for future updates so they don't have to build the same security patches for both RTM and SP1 until RTM is EOL. So apart from what MS says and the buildnumber staying the same there's not even the smallest reason to not think of this as an SP.
The download request page says that you could wait for this hotfix to be included in windows update. And in the "related files"(not additional files), they were files dated Aug 2012, in the case of regular updates, the related files should be 16xxx, or for Update1, 17xxx. This particular hotfix will change, either the contents or replaced by another KB. (don't want to get backfires, but this hotfix is just targeted to OEM's only).
Windows 8.1 Update 1 Desktop Icon problem Hi all After installing update 1 my desktop icons are not clickable at random times. Its almost as if the keyboard is not working. I have to click the start screen and go back and forth a couple of time before it becomes responsive again. Any ideas? Thanks guys.