Do We Still Need Security Software With Windows 8 Your Opions Please

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by TECHNOMAN, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. TECHNOMAN

    TECHNOMAN MDL Member

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    Since The Release Of Windows 8 Last Year I`ve Notice That Some User Say You Get A Better Running System If You Stay Away From Antivirus & Internet Security Software Like the Ones Listed Below

    Norton Antivirus/Internet Security
    Kaspersky Antivirus/Internet Security
    ARG Antivirus/Internet Security
    Eset Antivirus/Smart Security
    Bullguard
    Plus Many Others

    If The On-line Forums Are Correct That User Experience Problems With Their System Once They Install Any Antivirus Or Internet Security Software
    Does This Mean That The Software Are Not Really Compatible With The Operating System
    Also How Well Protected Is The User Just Using Windows Defender That Comes With Windows

    Some Of The Report I`ve Read On-line Of Problems Are Things Like I`ve Listed Below

    Slow Internet Speed ( With Security Software Install) This Improves When Security Software Is Uninstalled
    Problems With Apps Running From Start Screen With Security Software Install:The Security Software Marks Some Apps As Untrusted
    Overall The Antivirus/Security Software Slows Down The System Only What People Say

    So What Do User Think & Please Share Your Experiences Which You Prefer With A Antivirus/Security Install-Or Without


    If Anyone As Experiencing Any Other Issues That Maybe Security Software Or Operating System Software Issue Could You Please Share
     
  2. tonto11

    tonto11 MDL Addicted

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    Three years ago I had a problem with a malware hijacking my google searches on ie. Can't remember which product I was using at the time, but in due course I tried them all. Each found nothing. Eventually I tried Malwarebytes Antimalware. It identified and removed the problem. Subsequently I have stuck with that, till MSE came along, Now those computers that appear to run slowly I remove MA but keep it handy to run occasionally just to be sure. MSE seems to be pretty good, identifying the same things as MA does. ...T
     
  3. cocachris89

    cocachris89 MDL Senior Member

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    With anti virus/internet security programs these days, they come with real time scanning which can impact on performance of the computer. However personally I have not had this problem with running AVG on Windows 7 for the past 2-3 years because I backup my stuff and create a system image nearly every week, depending if I remember. I did get a virus once about 7 months ago and I couldn't remove it, so I just restored a system image and went on my way.

    I do believe that Windows needs at least some form of protection from nasties, whether its an AV, firewall, internet security or maleware scanner. You can never be too careful. Majority of viruses come from user ignorance; such as clicking on popups, porn sites, free super pc cleaner ++++ type programs.
     
  4. PaulDesmond

    PaulDesmond MDL Magnet

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    guys, be sure that all, yes all AV software is reactive. These never can detect a virus prior to its appearance. This means that an attack can happen and will before the signatures were updated.
    Brain is the most useful AV ever :D
     
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  5. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Using AVG Free (like it due to it´s not silently deleting anything before asking me what i want to do :D) and Windows Firewall. For secure browsing my Firefox is running with NoScript, Ad Block Plus and Ghostery, because Brain.exe is not preventing Drive-By-Infections.
    Especially as often even serious and trusted sites were hijacked and used for malware distribution, not only porn and warez websites.
     
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  6. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    thats why i never ever used any AV,Security Programs. Not even in XP. Specially the crap called Windows Defender :p
     
  7. PaulDesmond

    PaulDesmond MDL Magnet

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    #7 PaulDesmond, Mar 7, 2013
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2013
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  8. ODY123

    ODY123 MDL Expert

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    The problem is that most people don't want to use their brains, they just want to use the computers to do whatever as they pleased.
     
  9. EFA11

    EFA11 Avatar Guru

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    sad but true. Best defense is knowing what you are opening, where you are going and what you are doing. So many times I've watched a message popup on the screen and to get it out of their way, they quickly hit "OK".

    Download eatyourcomputer virus now? OK! Install eatyourcomputer virus now? OK!

    GAHH!!! anyway, AVG is the easiest and least obtrusive that Ive used, Windows 8 has all it needs if everything above this sentence is put to use lol
     
  10. anarchist9027

    anarchist9027 MDL Expert

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    Of course you still need security software...

    I don't care if you are on Windows 23, there will always be threats on your computer as long as your are connected to the world wide web due to cyber criminals and just people trying to steal your most personal info no matter if you click an fraudulent email thinking its the real deal, having a site hijacked, having your hosts file edited etc. I could literally go on all day. Even the most secure person is never truly secure with out security software.
     
  11. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

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    I didn't use AV software at all and have defender disabled too. The firewall I running is Smoothwall which covers my whole Network running in it's own dedicated machine as kind Hardware Firewall. it also gives me the need of the fully connection logs, which I need to keep for at minimum of 3 month according to Government Law in Thailand for Corporate Networks.

    If I get infected in some way, I use the Free Cure It from Dr.Web, which didn't need to be installed and therefore didn't run in TSR in many means, it just run when started. Downtime for that Apps, if we would see it as one, is that it need to downloaded every time new because there isn't any Update function for the free version. I'm fine with that!
     
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  12. ljimbo

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    the old Brain is the best AV there is... i have only lost a couple of files due to a virus but that was nearly 20 years ago and sadly it was from a trusted source .. cant remember which magazine it was but the disk had something on it.. back in those days i didnt backup stuff.. and as such that was the only time i have lost files..

    looks sus, sandbox it or use spare machine or try a more trusted source to begin with... i have never run AV on my machine full time.. have on the missus's machine (coz i cant be botherd checking everything she does all the time, nor clean it everytime she gets a virus).. if yer smart about it you can get away without using AV which is a huge performance boost ;)
     
  13. TECHNOMAN

    TECHNOMAN MDL Member

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    Thanks for all the information this proves that security software can`t be trusted as often it provides false information, as it shows Microsoft Toolkit as a virus or Trojan or malware
    Yet many say its fine just false positive from users av software

    As quoted the user is in control of his/hers system & what they choose to put on or not to put on ,
    Best thing to do is make a backup of your system when its running that your happy with so you can restore it back because some of the programs out there make a lot of false promises some are free & some paid for version
    so it seems as Paul Desmond suggest use brain before clicking your mouse or using your keyboard the only security user have is in their hands
     
  14. lievre

    lievre MDL Senior Member

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    For me the best antivirus program is by far Nod. Now on windows 7 no problem at all, since i've install windows 8 on my new computer (5 months ago) i don't have any antivirus and so far i don't really think i need one on win8.

    Lievre
     
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  15. PaulDesmond

    PaulDesmond MDL Magnet

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    see my comment in the other thread dealing about the same crap. Tired to repeat this since years
     
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  16. TECHNOMAN

    TECHNOMAN MDL Member

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    I thought i would save opening a new thread & ask maybe a simple question
    What is the best popup ad blocker that is compatible with most web browser either paid for or free

    As we all use different browser & may get slightly different results with popup/ad blockers but which would user advice that does not impact on the system

    Thank you
    TECHNOMAN
     
  17. PaulDesmond

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    Firefox addon adblock plus serves me absolutely fine and afaik it is available on other browsers as well
     
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  18. urie

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    Adblock plus for most browsers, and Simple Adblock for internet Explorer.