Do you think a wall on the border with Mexico can stop the immigrants?

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Will the wall be effective against illegal immigrants?

  1. Yes, the wall will be largely effective

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  2. It will only have a small effect not worth the cost

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  3. No, it will be a monumental failure

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  1. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    Okay Grog...so tell me. Who it not helps.

    No. Not quite.

    There's a big difference between building a wall to divide people and building walls to protect people from themselves.

    If you actually read some of the posts here, you'd get the gist of that.

    No Cheffie...The definition of Mental Illness is quoting a lunatic Hollywood type and actually believing that a quote like that makes sense. It's called Delusional Thinking, and I think you should be careful of it.

    Now. Quick summary, so pay attention.

    People from all over south America are trying to come here (America) and passing through Mexico, only to be robbed, possibly murdered, or sold into Human Trafficking.

    There are two camps here:

    1 ) The people who believe that a wall is to keep them out.

    -AND-

    2 ) The people who think that the wall should be built, simply to control the influx of South American gangs, thugs and drugs pouring into America. (See MS-13 and you'll understand what I mean. They put the Russian Mafia to shame in terms of violence)

    This is -NOT- over.
     
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  2. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

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    Sheesh. Is there no pleasing you ?
    You are SOOOO anti Trump I assumed that Obama was your hero.

    I know, I shouldn't assume.
     
  3. CHEF-KOCH

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    #263 CHEF-KOCH, Feb 27, 2017
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    Nonsense. A wall is a wall. How often we saw 'in the name of good' to exclude people to protect others. It's racist.



    Nonsense, look at stock which is best example for craziness. How long you think it holds until the next crash?! ... and then they start over again, so same with this wall.

    People all over the world trying to come in in whatever country you name, this is nothing 'american' exclusive, you think it was good idea that UK not allowed refugees? They died on their wall. Is that okay? Nope.


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    OVER:tounge5:
     
  4. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    Good fences make for Good neighbors.
    accept that, and your life will be good again
     
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  5. JFKI

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  6. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

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    :laie: NICE plug for "It's about time". :laie:
     
  7. gorski

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    #267 gorski, Feb 28, 2017
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    No thinking about the roots of the problem will get us nowhere!



    Starting point of "expansion":



    Hypocritical policies:



    One more, just for good measure:



    :g:
     
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  8. gorski

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    #268 gorski, Feb 28, 2017
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    More roots of problems around the world:



    US and Latin America, as theirs to plunder, especially forcing neo-liberalism onto its back yard:



    Now, whomever FORGETS about all this - the source of much of instability and lots of poverty and bitches about "immigrants" - I despair...
     
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  9. Michaela Joy

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    That's a possibility.

    Actually, it's the land owners on the border who want it. They feel it will make it safer for them to live there.

    Not too sure about that. We'll see.

    Welcome to MDL, btw. :welcome2:
     
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  10. dhjohns

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  13. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Will he get his 900 days in office...???:rolleyes:
     
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  14. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    I do not know why peeps expect Trump to act like a politician because he is not a politician, He's a businessman, and he's going to run this country like a business, hopefully for the peoples of the U.S. and not government interventions like we were plagued with when we had O'Bummer
     
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  15. dhjohns

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    Well if he runs this country like his business, then the stockholders will kick his butt out. Asking Trump to run the country is like asking me to fly a plane! LOL He is going to run it somewhere, and that is into the ground. When he is out we can return to what Obama started, and be the United States again. We need to dump the rest of the republicans too. They are all dirtballs, each and every one of them.
     
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  16. Katzenfreund

    Katzenfreund MDL Expert

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    I am undecided about the wall, but I certainly agree with the above adage.

    It's the geographical equivalent of the financial wisdom:
    Good accounts make for good friends.
     
  17. dhjohns

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    No fences. Open borders. That is what makes America great!
     
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  18. Joe C

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    What O'Bummer started, is why Hillary lost
     
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  19. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    His stockholders made money. Maybe not his contractors or employees, but they did.

    Do I even have to say it? :D

    I doubt it. I think the American people have made it clear that they don't want any more of what the Democrats are offering.

    And that's exactly what was said about the Democrats by the American voter -and- the Electoral College.
     
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  20. gorski

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    It is absolutely wise to try to make sure he never gets a chance of running a country like a businessman!!!

    Trump as a businessman is there to make a profit! Who does not understand what it means - talks from his/her rear end. If the business is not regulated properly - watch out, a knife by Trump is coming, sooner or later! http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/28/news/trump-apartment-tenants/

    Trump didn't even pay his contractors, what makes you think that Bernie is not right when he says Trump must be stopped in his tracks, trying to cut the social services even more - Trump as a businessman does not have to deal with the children, sick, weak, old, handicapped and so on. That is why we have politicians. He even does not deal well with other businessmen. How many bankruptcies did he have? How many times was he dug out of that hole by state intervention (i.e. tax payer's money by not having to pay taxes for as long as it took him to "recuperate" from his losses)?

    And so on and on and on...

    Seriously...
     
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