Do you think a wall on the border with Mexico can stop the immigrants?

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Will the wall be effective against illegal immigrants?

  1. Yes, the wall will be largely effective

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  2. It will only have a small effect not worth the cost

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  3. No, it will be a monumental failure

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  1. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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  2. dhjohns

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    I always know what I am talking about. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lists water fluoridation as one of the ten great public health achievements of the 20th century in the U.S. There are also no risks involved with eating GMO foods. All this is just a bunch of facebook meme junk not to be believed.
     
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  3. Michaela Joy

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  4. Joe C

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    You do know this is coming from the same government that dosed people with LSD without their consent?
     
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  5. dhjohns

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    Now THAT was a free gift!
     
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  7. zen45

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    the wall wont work , it can never work , if you want to stop illegal immigration fine the people who hire them ! if a home owner hires paco to do his yardwork fine him $1000 you allowed to ask for id when you hire a person to work for you , a company who hires them should be fined a large enough fine to stop them from hiring them ! that is the only way to stop illegals remove the opportunity to work here . it wont stop illegals who cross the border from moving in with legal immigrants (friends relatives) o_O
     
  8. Joe C

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  9. Joe C

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    The problem, is Paco isn't going to say anything about getting paid "under the table" except to his buddies and if somebody can pay Paco $6.00 an hr instead of paying legal Johnny $9.00 an hr. Well we know how that turns out. We can not police every citizen in this country not to hire illegals, much less be successful at policing small business and major corporations not to hire illegals
     
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  10. Katzenfreund

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    But how can an illegal immigrant without identity card, national insurance number, or any other legal document get a driving license (and insurance), or have medical insurance, or open a bank account, or... And I should think illegal employment is not so hard to discover, some of it at least. For a start, competitors or local unemployed labor will inform the authorities.
     
  11. Joe C

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    #131 Joe C, Feb 3, 2017
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    "under the table" means that they provide no papers and you pay them cash. No taxes, no insurance... no banks for checks. I think in some places like California, they do allow illegals a drivers license and a state I.D. Lots of people drive without a drivers license. My son in law does and has driven for years without a license. At least until he pays off his DUI fines
     
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    #132 JFKI, Feb 3, 2017
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    I was mistaken. :eek: Operation Artichoke. LSD is discussed about 28 minutes into:

    [video=youtube_share;XHEis6616AM]https://youtu.be/XHEis6616AM[/video]
    That predates what I was thinking of.

    Edit to add: reload the page Joe, I inserted the wrong link. :eek:
     
  13. Joe C

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    Girls with painted on jeans??? It's only 3:45 long, can't get to the 28 minute mark
    (your pr0n is showing)

    Edit... you got it fixed!
     
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    I searched for experiments in New York City on youtube.
    She caught my eye and I copied that link with the intent of posting it elsewhere, and forgot to copy the correct one before I pasted it here.

    What can I say ? :dunno:
     
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  16. ThomasMann

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    Sorry, about the misunderstanding...

    This was meant as a confirmation of your commentary. So, my apologies! Given the regular absurdities on this website, it was my fault, not yours, that you took my blatant sarcasm seriously.

    One should not allow children access to Marijuana, that is the only rule.
    But one should also try to avoid a takeover of the business by corporations in states, where it is already legalized.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goats

    Still a very funny book, reread it last year. The movie was not quite that good, but for people who are too lazy to read, it will do...
     
  18. ThomasMann

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    Good thinking! All these impoverished nations have an excellent water supply system, and plenty of drinkable water...

    Did you know, that every one and a half seconds a child in those countries dies, because it has no access to drinkable water?
     
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    My mom was a teenager during WW2 in Hungary, I remember her telling stories of the germans using BZ gas but not the details.

    I guess those stories weren't gruesome, or visual enough because I do remember others she told.
    Aftermath of the bombing of her home town and peoples limbs hanging off the telegraph lines and such. :dunno:
     
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    The jury is still out on that one, no DEFINITE research (neutral, not financed by corporations) has been published.
    After all these years, about 20, that in itself may give you a hint to the truth...

    As far as GMOs are concerned, Europeans know as little as americans. But they have different rules over there, that is the reson why there are these huge demonstrations against TTIP. Which, by the way, is also the one the reasons, why most Europeans correctly believe that their culture is superior to what the americans consider culture...

    In Europe the rule is, that the industry has to show by large trials, that anything, like f.e. GMOs, is NOT harmful, before they are allowed to use it on the fields.

    In the US, the country with the government of the people, by the people and for the people, it is the other way around. Corporations like Monsanto are allowed to sell whatever (Round-Up!) they want. The people can go to court later and there they will have to proof, that something is actually harmful!

    To see how that all works. you might watch Erin Brockovich, Julia Roberts movie from 2000....