Doing a clean install of Windows 10 without DVD or USB stick

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  1. khon

    khon MDL Member

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    Wait, if you have a 4GB USB you don't need anything else. From an esd file make a dvd iso with decrypt and use option 2 to make a compressed iso that will fit on a 4GB usb. It's been an year that I use this method!
     
  2. T-S

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    Not easier, nor faster than the solution I detailed above. We are in the new millennium, no need to think using the menthal schemes frome the Win3.11 days
     
  3. cdavisdeco

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    #23 cdavisdeco, Jul 27, 2016
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    After the installation will there be leftovers of my current OS?

    No. I don't have a flash drive bigger than 4GB. I just asked whether I can boot from USB flash drive with easybcd and do the installation from another HDD where the source ISO is.
     
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    #24 cdavisdeco, Jul 27, 2016
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    Sounds easy. Though it didn't work. I tried with FreeDOS and MS DOS bootable USB created wih Windows 98 boot files. It booted. But I don't know why, it didn't even allow me to change the directory.
     
  5. T-S

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    Just install easybcd and see how it works.

    It will ask the path of the windows installations or vhd or isos, just put them in the place you like.

    Your current os will be moved in a windows.old folder if you decide to install w10 in his partition, otherwise it will left intact and added to the dual/multi boot menu.

    In short no differences from booting from a DVD or USB media.
     
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    #26 cdavisdeco, Jul 27, 2016
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    Really? I'm talking about the 64bit version.
    Is there any guide on MDL? And where can I get a genuine ESD file?
     
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    #27 cdavisdeco, Jul 27, 2016
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    Considering the fact that current OS will be moved to a windows.old folder in the same drive, how can this method similar to clean install than a upgrade?
    How does the disk formatting work without erasing data in this method?
     
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    #29 cdavisdeco, Jul 28, 2016
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    Guys, please accept my apologies for asking too many questions without much researching. It's not that I'm lazy. The thing is, I don't have much time and other resources at the moment. So I'm looking for methods with less research, trial and error. Otherwise I always do some research. So you're help is much appreciated. Hope you'll understand. :)
     
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    T-S MDL Guru

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    Format is for looser.

    Forget that command. It's just useless and/or dangerous in 99.999% of the cases.
     
  11. T-S

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    Just read the forum the latest build is the 1607 aka 14393.0
     
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    The last OS "insider" build is Ver. 1607 Build 14393.5 that is the last esd 14393 + KB3176927 very close to August RTM; anyway you can use the esd you have and then update.
     
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    #34 cdavisdeco, Jul 28, 2016
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    I mean the latest public release not the insider preview.
     
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    Without going into the whole Insider vs. RTM discussion all over again, I'll just say that 14393 is what you should get.

    As for installation, I can explain how to do a manual install if you're comfortable doing that; it's an entirely command-line based process.
     
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    #36 cdavisdeco, Jul 28, 2016
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    Can that method be done within the limitations I've stated in the first post?

    Aren't Insider Preview and RTM two different channels? Also can you tell me what that discussion was about in simple?
     
  16. T-S

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    Obviously the users that are downloading the ESD here aren't part of the insider program, so no problem.
     
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    The discussion is/was on the subject of whether 14393 is "real" RTM or still another prerelease, whether whatever it is that will be released on GA will be somehow different, whether the term "RTM" is at all accurate, etc.

    What matters is that this build is what any future support and servicing will be based on. This is what any CU coming out will install on. Just like with 10240 and 10586 before, this is the one supported base build for the current/upcoming "anniversary update" release.
     
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    #39 cdavisdeco, Jul 29, 2016
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    So if insider preview 1607 Build 14393.5 is pretty much same as a GA, what's the argument on difference between this insider preview and upcoming public release?

    BTW if I have activated under retail license earlier, and install this insider preview now, can it be activated automatically under the same license channel?
    Also will this insider preview be updated to a RTM or remains in the insider channel? Do I need to opt-out insider program after installing this preview?
     
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    Whatever difference there is (if at all), it's insignificant, for the reason mentioned in my previous post.

    14393 is RTM. You won't be on the "Insider" channel unless you opt in to receive prerelease builds by joining the Insider program.