Dual boot for win 7 WMC/Win 10 (1607)?

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by jeff2012, Sep 21, 2016.

  1. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    #21 Mr.X, Sep 23, 2016
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    For me there's no permanency on KMS emulation, just RENEWAL. On every process of renewal things can go wrong as I already described, even with A/V exclusions. Moreover, look at KMS emulators/activators threads full of posts daily about issues with re-activations during renewal, etc.

    Only permanent activation is achieved through OEM:DM/Retail/MAK activation. No renewal, no scheduled tasks for renewal events, etc. Btw illegal MAKs serve as good as legit ones.

    Ah!! Sorry Daz, I forgot to mention your Windows Loader which has been proved to make permanent activations on Windows 7 (all editions but Enterprise, on MBR partitioning scheme only)
     
  2. Enthousiast

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    #22 Enthousiast, Sep 23, 2016
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    Please read the post on which i intially reacted.
     
  3. Mr.X

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    I've read it thrice lol
    You'll have to elaborate for me to see your point now.
     
  4. Enthousiast

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    Original question:
    My answer to explain how permanent a kms emulation solution is (and specificly for the 3 mentioned options):
    KMSpico, MTK2.6.1 ez-activator and KMS_VL_ALL by abbodi1406 are "permanent" because they install a service which frequently re-activates windows.

    I've used " and " around permanent to point out it's relativeness.
     
  5. Mr.X

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    Now I understand but no one can say it is permanent, not even quoted ("permanent"). Again it just renewable only.
    Activation period ends > Renewal events kick in > Re-activated (Ta daaa lol)
    When the word "end" comes into play, "permanency" concept vanishes.

    In general all people (me too) when hear or read the word "permanent", expect an activation where once done no renewals no other process or limits or anything will set a period of time or bring to an end such activation.
    Permanent activation = set the key then activate then forget forever.

    I would never use the word the word permanent even quoted: "permanent"

    But that's me and some out there think like me ;)
     
  6. Enthousiast

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    This is becoming wordplay, if i had exchanged the word "re-activates" with "renewal" it was the same as what you say.
     
  7. T-S

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    Aside of semantics, something that can be transparently used indefinitely is permanent
     
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    per·ma·nent
    ˈpərmənənt/Submit
    adjective
    1.
    lasting or intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely.
    "a permanent ban on the dumping of radioactive waste at sea"
    synonyms:lasting, enduring, indefinite, continuing, perpetual, everlasting, eternal, abiding, constant, irreparable, irreversible, lifelong, indissoluble, indelible, standing, perennial, unending, endless, never-ending, immutable, undying, imperishable, indestructible, ineradicable, ineliminable; More

    remain unchanged indefinitely
     
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  9. Mr.X

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    Yup, sadly KMS doesn't remain unchanged indefinitely.
    Semantics is important.
     
  10. lobo11

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    I was going to say if we got update that did away with KMS, permanent would be do do
     
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  11. Mr.X

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    Agreed.
    This potentially problem should be added to "some caveats" section lol
     
  12. Enthousiast

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    The question was simple, the answer also is.

    HWID and buying it always are the most permanent way, but that wasn't the question.

    When someone is planning to use a kms emulation solution it's clear he/she doesn't have a legit methode of activation and then the question is simply answered by explaining what to use and what it does.
     
  13. T-S

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    #33 T-S, Sep 23, 2016
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    Perhaps the scope is more important.

    My personal scope is to use a product indefinitely, not to see a "permanent" writing in response to slmgr /dlv

    As long as the former is granted I couldn't care less of the latter
     
  14. Mr.X

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    I know what was your intention. No doubts.
    But I also I want to express myself regard the wording. The way we use the concepts. That's it.
     
  15. Mr.X

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    Well, you are free to see that way. Not me. :)