Enterprise customers with new CPUs will require Windows 10

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Garbellano, Jan 16, 2016.

  1. Palladin

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    oh skybender eh get it check out for the freeze bug to see it if has bend yet and many more issue to come
     
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  3. pirithous

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    #44 pirithous, Jan 18, 2016
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    The more time goes on, the more I hate Microsoft as a company. They are the company who devised "embrace, extend and extinguish" and that's exactly what type of business antics they're up to again, designing their software to have artificial limitations because of the fact that you have the newest processor. Make no mistake; there isn't actually any technical reason as to why Skylake and Kaby Lake won't fully support Windows 7. It's all for money. Microsoft does not care about their end users other than if they can violently shake them like they are a bag full of money, and they look at their customers as mostly stupid sheep that are essentially addicted to Windows (truth be told, a lot of Windows users are indeed very stupid), and will obey whatever the MS kingdom tells them to do. Thankfully people are starting to wake up a bit, and look for privacy-respecting alternatives that don't send every thing you do on your PC back to a MS server and that doesn't shove updates down your throat, not letting you select or deselect specific updates. When you run Windows 10, you are running a closed-source system that is a "front door" to Microsoft. Microsoft more than ever, wants to make changes on your computer without you knowing exactly the code being run on the processor. At least with Windows 7 you had a degree of higher control, yet it's still closed source and the code can't be trusted. This is why all trusted cryptography standards and libraries such as libsodium, PGP, Diffie-Hellman and many other are all open source. Can you trust MS's encryption, the same company that was the first to participate in the PRISM program and allowed NSA and FBI to collect and eavesdrop on Skype video chats?

    The CPU manufacturers are obviously on board with this whole scam because they make money by people having to go out and buy new processors. At least that's what MS and the CPU manufacturers want to have happen. The only way it will stop is if people push back, but there has only been bits of this here and there. People in 2016 in the USA are mostly asleep/brain dead, and they just want their welfare check or paycheck-to-paycheck allowance, so they can get back to their mind-numbing smoke-filled Indian casino video poker mental masturbation adventures. Microsoft has a very shady past where they used illegal business practices to shut out legitimate competition, and this mentality never died. Microsoft is now currently trying to go "full bore" in terms of taking as much control away from the user, equating to unprecedented levels. Microsoft realizes that their business is in trouble, at least from the Windows perspective due to Windows 10's slow uptake (it's really only pulling percentage points from 8.x and Xbox numbers count too), and are taking heavy handed methods to shove Windows 10 down ignorant people's throats.

    A real thorn in Microsoft's side now is that Windows 7's percentage of operating system market share is holding steady, so Microsoft is doing their usual dance. Except this time, they're making it real shiny with lots of glimmer and bling, except once you get beyond the first few layers you realize that Microsoft is trying to pull a fast one.

    Stop supporting the cancer.
     
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    #45 nosense, Jan 18, 2016
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    AHHAHHAHAHAHAH Do people even read the article before posting? People can't really be this dumb........

    You'll just got click baited by the headline of the article.

    PS: the article is horribly written.
     
  5. ThomasMann

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    I fail to see a problem at all....

    I am running Win7 Ulti with an i5. When I press the button it takes about eight seconds till I can start using it. (After having powered off, not standby or hibernate)

    I have yet to see a reason why I should update. And I have yet to see a reason why I need more speed...

    This should be a problem for so-called "Gamers" only? Like... people who use words like "e-sports"?

    PLease someone, tell me I am right...
     
  6. Hadron-Curious

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    Could you enlighten us a bit on the article?
     
  7. pirithous

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    #49 pirithous, Jan 18, 2016
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    You are totally missing the entire point. MS are instituting artificial limitations on processors that will run virtualized Windows 3.1 just fine, but that won't run Windows 7 or 8, just 10. They did the same thing with DOS, and people quickly found a way around it. The people who buy their new Skylake-based PC at Walmart or Best Buy may want to "downgrade" to Windows 7, and they can, yet they're going to be precluded from receiving anything but critical security updates. If there were truly a processor architectural problem with Intel's latest processors, Windows 7 wouldn't run at all or the NT kernel would need serious modifications in order to become compatible without hardware virtualization. However, this is 100% not the case.

    If we use our critical thinking skills, it tells us that Microsoft isn't actually doing this because there's some behemoth load breaking their backs in terms of supporting other x86 processors besides the most recent generations. It has to do with force-feeding the ignorant consumer and limiting their choice. Microsoft is trying to do everything it can to kill off Windows 7, as they want all your telemetry, browser history, Skype chats, files on OneDrive and more. The more you rely on their services, the more locked in their prison they have you.

    Windows 10 is actually MS's antidote to Windows 7. Windows 7 as a desktop OS is a business model threat to Microsoft's current "shove the cloud down the customer's throat" model, so Microsoft is grasping at straws in order to find new and unethical ways to squeeze more money out of its shrinking customer base.

    Also, don't be surprised if MS starts dropping Windows 7 support for older generation processors next. Since their code is closed source, there's no recourse for anyone to fork the code base. You have to just accept whatever they decide, and the decisions they're currently making are totally outrageous and idiotic.
     
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    Okay...........Really, you should read the article I posted, it's even the source of the butchered article written by Engadget.

    Windows 7 is almost at EOL. Even with this new policy, MS is still providing 18 months support for new machines with win7 for new enterprise machines.
     
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    #53 SOCRATE_MMXII, Jan 19, 2016
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    When Windows 8 came out, I said it then that M$ has transformed Windows from an OS to a simple front-end for the Store, copying "the success" of CrApple Store and that's exactly what Windows is right now.
    Unfortunately, the madness doesn't stop here. The store is even in the Server edition of Windows. Probably, the bored sysadmins will say:Enough of this AD crap. I want to play Worms...just for chillin'.
    That was the idea? :g:

    According to M$ own policy, Windows 7 SP1 should receive critical updates until 14 January 2020. This means that Windows 7 SP1 should work with new processors and motherboards either MS likes it or not. Did they change that policy and nobody knows about it? :g:
     
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  10. mindwarped

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    YES, because people buying new computers with the newer CPU chipsets really want to have an old outdated operating system to go with that new hardware
     
  11. T-S

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    Yes usually is what happens.

    Lenovo and other brands published the support for Win 7 for their new Win8.x machines as a premium feature, available on the top lines.

    Luckyli the user base in't made completerly by kids who have multiple orgasms each time they see a pointless novelty.
     
  12. nodnar

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    :g: m$ just got lucky, intel quietly phased out usb2.. was bound to happen some day. so, unless you have a ps2 to connect an old keyboard and mouse on the mobo, your keyboard and mouse wont work, installing w7..
     
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  13. nosense

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    People really that dense? Holy cow, this POLICY has nothing to do with new cpu not working with older version WINDOWS. IT HAS TO DO WITH MS NOT SUPPORTING OLD VERSION OF WINDOWS IF ENTERPRISE decides to install an older version of windows on a new machine.
     
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