Even With Telemetry Disabled, Windows 10 Talks To Dozens of Microsoft Servers

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Garbellano, Feb 7, 2016.

  1. Shayne

    Shayne MDL Addicted

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    I vote on figuring out how to crack it and that involves no whining at all.

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  2. michaelmyers

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    I vote on someone actually proving that Microsoft is actually taking private data and storing it.

    I suspect I'll be waiting a while. I want actual evidence of them taking personal data (documents, video, photos, music...etc) and that they actually look through it and store it. None of this: "OMG I disabled a bunch of stuff and I'm a moron who doesn't understand why they would want to constantly try reconnecting to servers even when disabled. They must be trying to steal my stuff so I'll collect BS I don't understand and call it proof"
     
  3. Garbellano

    Garbellano MDL Addicted

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    Enlighten us, with your traffic DECRYPTED and the key(s), etc.
    I dont wanna see some stupid plaintext traffic, I wanna see what you did say, *DECRYPTED* TRAFFIC.
     
  4. oldsh_t

    oldsh_t MDL Expert

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    I vote on someone actually proving that Microsoft is NOT actually taking private data and storing it.

    If you feel that their not then why all this data gathering in the first place?? Of coarse M$ says that it is to build a better system. Up till Win10 M$ has built some pretty good systems on their own. What happened?? People at M$ have all become stupid and can't build a new system with out help??
     
  5. 100

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    HTTPS traffic from apps can be intercepted, as can WU traffic (but requires patching the client). I haven't seen it transmit personal data or personally identifiable information. ETW trace logs contain application-specific data, and you'd need the corresponding symbol files to make sense of it. E.g., that's what the "Get-WindowsUpdateLog" command does when extracting a human-readable log file from the trace files.

    You use a MITM proxy with a self-signed CA cert and install that as a trusted root on the client machine. It'll decrypt TLS traffic.
     
  6. lobo11

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    That means they can see all my video's and pictures, oh my:D
     
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  7. lobo11

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    Oh No, Pay as you go again, MS source please:confused:
     
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  8. HORIZONTAL THINKER

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    monitor your traffic and you won't need anyone to "prove" something. believe none of what you read and half of what you see ;)
     
  9. lobo11

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    It just reminds me of two other people:eek:
     
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  10. Bat.1

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  11. Garbellano

    Garbellano MDL Addicted

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    You are full of s**t. And you didnt show ANYTHING... NOTHING.
     
  12. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

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    Be sweet dude:worthy::worthy:
     
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  13. Studio384

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    #35 Studio384, Feb 11, 2016
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    I love how this is claiming that local network connections are telemetry-data related. Also, non of these "Port 80" connections are outgoing data. Windows can't do that by default, it will only receive data through port 80. And many of those others are just for DNS Teredo, the network status icon, activation services, etc. This test was literally manipulated so that Windows would make as much connections as possible in an as short time as possible. Honestly. If you don't activate Windows, it will go nuts trying to confirm the validity of your license causing it to try to connect with other IPs multiple times, many of the IPs in this list are just the activation servers. And there's nothing wrong with that. If I'm not wrong, Windows performs a network connection test for the network icon in the system tray at least every 30 seconds. So in the timespan of this "test", that on its own is already at least responsible for 960 connections over multiple IPs. And again, there is nothing wrong with that. The 94.245.121.253-IP, the #1 spot, is Teredo. Again nothing wrong with that.

    The laughs come around when you go to #3 and #4. When you get there, you should really be scratching your head to whether or not you should take this serious any further. The IP-addresses listed on #3 and #4 are respectively 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.255. Together making up for another 1232 connections in this test. Anyone with basic knowledge knows that this is just plain wrong (well, it's not wrong in that these connections where maid, it's wrong to what these connections are devoted). First of all, these are the first and last IPs within their range. Second of all, it's within the 192.168-range. That's a range for local networks. No internet required.

    Seriously, most of these connections can be reproduced on any other OS. Plenty of OS's connect with local connections, check for the network indicator, etc, etc. There's is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
     
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  14. Studio384

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    He said that it "ISN'T", not that it is.
     
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  15. WardocsRevenge

    WardocsRevenge MDL Expert

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    til foil hats are at it again yet they have facebook twitter and they are on forums lol the stupidity is alive and well
     
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  16. JFKI

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    Haven't you heard ?
    Tin foil hats only serve to amplify the signals. :p

    I will concede that stupidity is very much alive and well, exactly like the willful ignorance which go directly against the principals upon which this country ( USA ) was founded.

    P.S. No facebook or twit account here. ;)
     
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