[FAQ] Win 10, Installs and Upgrading.

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by mtrai, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. EFA11

    EFA11 Avatar Guru

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    if you were connected to the internet during the upgrade (MS needs to gather info on your system for activation), then yes once you clean install and go online it should activate.

    Just remember to be online during the upgrade, skip entering a key, and be online to activate after the clean install (because Win10 will need to retrieve the previous system info that was gathered to activate).
     
  2. costastou

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    ok now I have my windows 10 copy but I wave a small problem I can restart my pc fine but if I shut down next time I powerup the windows crash In windows logo and restarts. anyone else having this issue??
     
  3. akhmedtaia

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  4. costastou

    costastou MDL Junior Member

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    thanks I will give it a try. looks like this build will need a lot of fixes
     
  5. Erik B

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    Well, I'm writing this from my fresh Windows 10 pro activated and ready! :clap::clap:

    Furthermore not only did it automagically activate, it also somehow installed all the drivers I need - oh MS you shine!!
     
  6. MrChris

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    Thanks for the info. I used the leaked win10 build 10240 x86 to do the upgrade which ended up upgrading it to Windows 10 Home. It did stay activated which I guess is a good thing. I tried removing the touch device from device manager and rebooting as you recommended but that didnt make any difference. I ran the calibration util built into windows but that didnt help either. O well. im still gonna play with it some more. Maybe iview will have upgrade options/firmware options in the next few months as win10 gets rolled out to the masses. In the meantime I have a semi broken toy to play with. At least I can use my usb KB/Mouse with it in the meantime :)

    ~MC
     
  7. ZaForD

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    Heres an install question for you guys...

    A workstation PC that uses a SATA chipset that's not in the standard MS ISO's.
    Windows 7, 8 and 10 all install OK, when you point the installer to the SATA drivers.
    But, the Windows 10 Upgrade fails, because it can't find the HDD after reboot. :(

    I've tried adding the drivers with DISM, which works for a straight install. But an upgrade still fails for the same reason.

    Any ideas :confused:

    @MrChris,
    OK, it looks like Win8.1 w/Bing is Home and not Single Language.
    Thanks. :)
     
  8. KR11Z4D3R

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    But if you change the MOTHERBOARD you may be SOL. LOL
     
  9. Trev19

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    I got a question, i reformatted my computer awhile ago on a older insider build to my original windows 8.1 key... I want to stay an insider... can i wait for it to download on the 29th then have access to insider features, or i have to get an insider build?? (and if i get the insider build is my windows 8.1 good?)
     
  10. cheezels

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    #130 cheezels, Jul 25, 2015
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    I can confirm, that if you change motherboard, even if it is the exact same, you are indeed, SOL. :sneaky: Gonna see how I can work around this.

    Edit: Here is what I tested. I have two Dell Optiplex 760s.

    I upgraded Win7 to Win10 on PC#1 and it all went smoothly, no issues. Win10 is activated with the common Win10 upgrade key.

    I then did a fresh install. Activated fine.

    I then took that hard drive, and move it to PC#2, which is identical in hardware and licence (Dell Win7 Pro OEM SLIC). It booted up, and although it said it was activated at first, after a reboot it was saying it wasn't activated.

    It looks like MS builds a profile on something - motherboard serial numbers, service tags, MAC addresses, or a combination of these. I want to work out what makes this tick, and how I can setup a system to "upgrade" these PCs to Windows 10 without going through the time-consuming ordeal of running an upgrade, THEN having to do a clean install (or in my case, restoring an image).
     
  11. Steve-Austin

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    #131 Steve-Austin, Jul 25, 2015
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    Hello,

    I have an OEM licence of Windows 8.1, I upgraded to Windows 10 without any problems but if I check the licence, I find one with UEFI (my own) and an other with the generic key of Windows 10 pro VK7JG-...

    After that, I tried to make a clean install but my Windows won't be activated.

    PS: I don't use a connected account of MS.

    EDIT: I just made a clean install without erase the whole disk, just formated the Windows partition and it works ...
     

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  12. wiredfin

    wiredfin MDL Novice

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    When you upgrade MS receives your HWID and ties this with activation status. So no product keys needed now or in the future if you wish to clean install again. Activation info comes from MS when connected to internet.
     
  13. Underclocked

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    #134 Underclocked, Jul 25, 2015
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    I think the only way anyone will legitimately get an actual, unique key for installing Windows 10 will be to buy a retail copy.

    I'm also nearly certain that will lead to a ton of problems in the future.
     
  14. EFA11

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    yes, only way to get a personal legit key would be to buy one. But MS is going for the billion user mark, billions of McGates served!
     
  15. akhmedtaia

    akhmedtaia MDL Addicted

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    if i upgrade , should i sign in with my msn/ hotmail.com
    or can i sign in local account,
    then make clean install , :*
     
  16. TECHNOMAN

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    I have a old 32bit Packard Bell System that came I think with windows 7 not sure maybe vista & the recovery partition is long gone I only now use it as a test system
    It had windows 10 build 10166 install & activated then upgraded to Build 10240 & activated Then clean install & permanently Activated

    But I Think The language or region got mixed up as Cortana won`t work

    But my friend use his old dell laptop & re-install windows 7 & use daz loader then upgraded to windows 10 then done a clean install & he was permanently Activated
    he used the en-gb version I`m unsure which I used
    Could I I do the same as my friend wipe the system re-install windows 7 daz loader upgrade to win 10 activate then clean install & achieve permanently activated
    Or would it get de-activated as been upgraded from 10166 to 10240
    or do I need to wipe the system & just install the correct version en-gb
    would be interested to know if a system can cause de-activation
     
  17. cheezels

    cheezels MDL Junior Member

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    As someone who repairs a lot of PCs, this is exactly what I am fearing. There has to be a better way. I'm hoping MS says something about this on the 29th.
     
  18. akhmedtaia

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    I think the only way anyone will legitimately get an actual, unique key for installing Windows 10 will be to buy a retail copy.


    I'm also nearly certain that will lead to a ton of problems in the future.
     
  19. Mandy

    Mandy MDL Member

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    Hmmm
    What about a MAK key from let say a organization after a the 29 July D Day !!

    Especially when at the moment there is no activation for in place Enterprise upgrade