Firefox became shi**y as Hell...

Discussion in 'Application Software' started by gorski, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    Vivaldi is based on chromium, but that said still no practical example.

    Like Opera 12 vivaldi is good as is, just like Opera was. To make FF as useful as opera you needed some things like 20 extensions, and Vivaldi is no different.
     
  2. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Yes, translation plugins, for instance, are nowhere near the ones in FF but adblocking etc. is the same, more or less...

    Anybody tried Chromodo? Not bad. Comodo have an FF based browser, too... Any better?

    Cheers for clarifying the issues, guys! :)

    Good to know all these views... ;)
     
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  3. Joe C

    Joe C MDL Guru

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    what ever is broken in FF will be set in the hidden profile, you can re-install all day and if the profile is not deleted, you will not see any changes, it will still be broken. Enable to view hidden folders and the profile folder will be at C:\Users\*user name\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\*profile name.default
    After you uninstall FF delete that entire folder (*profile name.default) reboot and then get a new download of FF from firefox.org
     
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  4. cengizhan

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    you talk like that they were two different projects :biggrin::death:
     
  5. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    They are WAY different browsers.

    Chrome is essentially a spyware tool plenty of proprietary code.

    Chromium is an n open source browser, with no proprietary/closed code, and the few remaining connections with the google services were either removed altogether or made optional by the Vivaldi guys.

    I care a little about the receipt I care about what's actually in my dish
     
  6. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Thanx, Joe, will try it all out!

    T-S, I never used Chrome, after testing it, having seen what Grubber are doing with our data...

    Chromium I did use but updating it etc. was a bit of a palaver, so I tried Chromodo, which worked fine...

    100, thanx for that, I must re-think, probably go back to Chromium and see if they improved in various ways...

    Mind, I am always listening/learning from more knowledgeable/experienced and I will test it all with FF and see if 32b new install improves things....

    Cheerio!
     
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  7. ZarkBit

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    #28 ZarkBit, Jun 20, 2016
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    They are not that different, they share much of the code, many of Chrome devs are working for Chromium, and vice versa, and only small parts of chrome are actually closed source, such as the auto updater, pdf reader, some audio/video codecs, some more stuff and no it isn't a spyware tool, only if you login with your Gmail account.

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    As for suggestions, pcxFirefox (firefox based) or Slimjet (chromium based), both are fast and much of the bloatware is pretty much gone.
     
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  8. John Sutherland

    John Sutherland MDL Addicted

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    @gorski: I agree that Firefox isn't what it used to be. I've found that some of the recent versions experience random "freeze-ups" on certain webpages. I don't know if it's the fault of the browser itself or the webpages' s**tty scripts.

    Lately I've been using the Pale Moon browser. It's based on Firefox, the interface is based on the pre-Australis version, and your can export/import all of your current Firefox bookmarks easily.
     
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  9. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    Obviously they share a lot of code. But that means very little from the user POV.

    Nuclear bombs and nuclear powerplants shares a lot tech, which doesn't mean they are equally harmful.

    Sure it's a spyware tool. Even the simple default on Google's DNS servers belongs to the category.

    Do you really believe that Google maintains the DNS infrastructure because of charity?

    And DNS is just the smallest bit.
     
  10. ZarkBit

    ZarkBit MDL Junior Member

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    This will be my last reply to this pointless offtopic, next time you quote me, quote me completely, it's a spyware tool IF you login to the web browser with your gmail account, of course they would like to know where you browsing at, they provide a service which at first sight looks free, you know what they say, when something is free you're the product, so it shouldn't surprised people that they mine data (pretty much like any other company....).

    Go live under a rock if you don't want to be spied.
     
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  11. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    You have little idea of what you're talking about. Or you have the wrong idea of what a spyware tool is.

    Clearly if I log in in to a google/ms/apple/whatever account I'm aware that I'm sharing my info. It's a my personal decision.

    A spyware tool is something that collects data about the users w/o any explicit consent. And that is Chrome, and by lesser extent also Chromium.
     
  12. ZarkBit

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    *facepalm*
     
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  13. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    Ok, clearly, you are the usual smart alek kid, who managed to assembly a PC and hence thinks his opinion is at the same level of Kevin Mitnick's one. :D
     
  14. 100

    100 MDL Expert

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    Well this is Kevin Mitnick's opinion... :rolleyes:
     
  15. ThomasMann

    ThomasMann MDL Expert

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    Because it is none of your f.... business!

    46 worked, 47 did not, re-installed 46, everything works again.

    What exactly do you not understand about this?
     
  16. ThomasMann

    ThomasMann MDL Expert

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    I suppose you are correct.... so thank you, I appreciate your attempt to help. But I am simply fed up with these mozilla improvements.

    But I have been doing things like that for many years and I simply fed up, with those people. NO ONE asks them for the changes they keep making all the time, and everytime one has to waste time to correct the crap!
     
  17. ThomasMann

    ThomasMann MDL Expert

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    Yes, but not the addons....

    Wasted about three hours on this, incl, returning to Ff
     
  18. T-S

    T-S MDL Guru

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    Out of context is hard to understand what he meant.



    But almost surely the sentence was about having a cheap device and using it consciously: Not email, not Google Apps. (which means no chrome)
    And I assume he was talking to the average Joe to buy a 100$ laptop and install a decent linux or a decrapified windows on top of it.