Get Old Classic Calculator in Windows 10

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by hb860, Jan 30, 2015.

  1. anonymuos

    anonymuos MDL Novice

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    Thanks, I prefer the old one definitely and cannot stand the new one. :D It has no menus for keyboard operation, requires too many clicks just to switch from calculation mode to unit conversion mode, the UI is an abomination. Many reasons why it sucks. I can't even bring up a previous expression and edit just about anything in it. o_O
     
  2. hb860

    hb860 MDL Expert

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  3. wazzock

    wazzock MDL Senior Member

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    They also do an Old Task Manager for W10 :)
     
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  4. hb860

    hb860 MDL Expert

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    indeed. The old task manager and the classic paint for creators update.
    ah, and the classic msconfig.
     
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  5. Katzenfreund

    Katzenfreund MDL Expert

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    With so many users preferring the old/classic versions (Start, Task Manager, msconfig, Safe Mode, Calculator, Paint, Photo Viewer …), not to mention old OSs like XP and W7, I wonder whether the reason is that Microsoft messes up rather than improves all these functions, or people just prefer what they got used to.

    Either way, it does seem that MS is wasting much of its time and its customers much of their money.
     
  6. Espionage724

    Espionage724 MDL Expert

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    I don't really have a particular preference to how classic vs Modern UI apps look, but since I disable UAC, I can't really use any of thse new Modern UI apps anyway :p
     
  7. maestrosir

    maestrosir MDL Junior Member

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    But if you have UAC enabled, I see no reason to go with old calc.
     
  8. 2hot6ft2

    2hot6ft2 MDL Novice

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    A very good calculator they "could" have included

    Microsoft does actually have a decent calculator called "Microsoft Mathematics" that can "Solve a System of 1-6 Equations", create graphs, do Trig. and Calculus which is hard to find in a free calculator. A search will find it on Microsoft's website. It requires .NET 3.5 which is in "Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features\Turn Windows features on or off" The very top one.

    Guess it was too much calculator for the masses.:eek:
     
  9. Simple07

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    The word from MS is that they are working on an update for Mathematics v4, I hope they will add few more functions, it is an excellent free tool.
    However, while it integrates well with 2015 release of office 2016 using Math Addin "edumathaddin.exe", it takes a trick to integrate it with the latest Word 2016 releases and it does not integrate with One Note 2016.
     
  10. TairikuOkami

    TairikuOkami MDL Expert

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    New one takes about 5 secs to open, old one less then a millisecond. New one requires keylogger task to be enabled, otherwise typing does not work.
     
  11. hb860

    hb860 MDL Expert

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    Yep. In short, the old one is more faster and more useful.
     
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    2hot6ft2 MDL Novice

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    #32 2hot6ft2, Jan 11, 2017
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    The fix for Mathmatics Add-in

    A update would be nice. And making it work right with Word and One Note would be a plus.

    In case someone wants to know how to make it work with Word 2016 here is the way I found to get it to work. I didn't get the 64 bit version to work but the 32 bit Word works.

    Posted by
    Galvananiser on answers.microsoft so all credit goes to them
    Enough about Mathmatics and back to the threads topic of the old calculator. I just wanted to let people know about this alternative.
    :cool:
     
  13. PhaseDoubt

    PhaseDoubt MDL Expert

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    I’m with you on this. The slowest loading calculator app we have is in the blink-of-an-eye load time and that’s inside VirtualBox on a Mac.
     
  14. WildByDesign

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    @hb860 Do you know if there was ever a more recent version of Calculator (calc.exe) which has been compiled with Control Flow Guard (CFG)? If so, would you be willing to update your Old Calculator package with that version? Thank you.

    I noticed that your old Sticky Notes (StikyNot.exe) package contains StikyNot.exe that is compiled with CFG which is great. So if there was an old calc.exe on that same build of Windows which you got StikyNot.exe from, I assume that it should contain calc.exe also compiled with CFG. Although I do not know exactly at which point Microsoft stopped compiling old Calculator with Windows.
     
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    text services framework / ms ctf monitor, yep required for typing in any metro app (store, search, edge etc)

    people seem to forget that all the modern apps are designed for touch screen users, hence the big chunky ui.
     
  16. hb860

    hb860 MDL Expert

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    Hmm, we could look for calc.exe from 10240, for example.
     
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  17. WildByDesign

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    Thank you for your follow up. I decided to dig deeper into this and found an older ISO image for LTSB 2015 and unfortunately that still had the newer executable for the modern UWP Calculator app. So it appears that possibly there may never have been a binary of calc.exe (old calc) instrumented with CFG.
     
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